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04-04-2005, 11:56 AM | #31 |
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Sorry, I couldn't hear his words over the roaring ego.
Obviously, being in a committee for a third party in one state of one country is WAY more important to the world and it's workings than being the spiritual leader of 1 billion (give or take a few hundred thousand) people. My bad. Hey, I wonder which presidents, royalty and world leaders will come to Radar's funeral? Think it will be televised worldwide? Piped over the internet? Who is going to handle the throngs of people trying to catch the merest glimpse of his body? Obviously the Libertarian Party of California will handle all the media coverage...
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04-04-2005, 12:00 PM | #32 |
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does it mean you were influential or not influential if someone vows to piss on your coffin?
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04-04-2005, 12:43 PM | #33 |
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well they say if you don't piss off a lot of people you haven't really achieved anything....
Of course that doesn't mean the corollary is true. In a sense I get radar's position and maybe it could have had some merit if the personal achievements of the bloke weren't so obvious. I mean there's no love lost between myself and the catholic church but I can admire someone for having that level of conviction, overcoming a lot of adversity and having the balls to say exactly what he thinks to the point of endangering his own life. Let me know when Radar's actions help bring down a latter day berlin wall. Or when the pope opens a hotdog stand.
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04-04-2005, 03:10 PM | #34 |
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Or when a pope actually works to support himself, or when he is elected by more than 117 people (as I was), or when a pope opposes communism, socialism, fascism, etc. as much as I do, or when a pope has registered thousands of people to vote, or when a pope as done anything but be a mumbling guy in a funny hat being pranced around for people to worship (idolatry), etc. There may well be world leaders at my funeral. Who knows? Would it make me more important if they did? No. Would it make me a better man? No.
If a billion people saw me as a "spiritual leader" would it make me a better person? Not at all. Would it mean I was more important than a man who works cleaning toilets to feed his family? No. For the record, the pope didn't do anything to bring down the berlin wall or in any way have an effect on communism. I think it's laughable that a pathetic moron like Onyx would think it's egotistical to consider myself the equal of the pope. It only shows how clueless someone can be when they're brainwashed. And if someone wants to piss on your grave, you were obviously influencial. You may not be important, or a good person, but you have influenced someone. A drunken man who beat his children might find someone pissing on his grave. Was he influencial?
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04-04-2005, 03:15 PM | #35 |
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I think somebody may be channelling Danzig...
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In addition, if you consider yourself to be on an equal level to the Pope, (which you've stated many times now) then you have to consider me to the on an equal level to you both, in which case, you're a pathetic moron as well. I work for a living too, helping thousands of people a week. If however, we're not all equal, then your logic is flawed, and you really are just a lonely little pissant with deep psychological issues that tries to make himself feel better by insulting other people.
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I thought he visited communist Cuba and as a direct result of that visit, athiest Cuba stopped its repression of religion. I'm sure I saw several news sources reporting that as fact. You could argue that Castro gets the credit for that, but it wouldn't have happened without the catalyst of the Pope. |
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04-04-2005, 10:24 PM | #39 |
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I'm profoundly anti-Catholic (dogma and doctrine, not the followers, of course), and even *I* thought JPII was a fine Pope. If you've absolutely got to have one, he filled the bill nicely.
The Catholics aren't the only ones using religion as a lever to control peoples bodies, for crying out loud...
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04-04-2005, 10:37 PM | #40 |
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Well said, Els. I've been trying to think all morning of how to say something similar, that would not offend people (or Radar), and you have hit it on the button. I'm also not a Catholic, and I think that JPII was a very special, and important man, and I will certainly miss him.
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04-05-2005, 08:23 AM | #42 |
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I dunno maybe it's the polish heritage speaking, but I liked the guy although (of course) I disagree with a number of things he stood for, then again.. we all agree to diasagree, that's the beautiful part (well I agree to disagree anyway )
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04-09-2005, 12:15 AM | #43 |
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I heard a statement on one of the news channels today that JP II supplied the CIA with most of the reliable information they got on the goings on behind the iron curtain. He not only passed the info personally, he understood which info was important and why. Impressive.
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Maybe we shoulda asked him about WMD.
Oh, and thanks for setting up the next post.
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