Interesting graphs and charts department

[xoxoxoBruce]

I would love an economy where that is an option, and still not be in poverty.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I would love an economy where that is an option, and still not be in poverty.

The economy is not for people. You need to get with the program.

[xoxoxoBruce]

That's right, I forgot.

This is a map of dubious origin so wear a condom in every state.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

NY Times: "Do Millennial Men want Stay-at-Home Wives?"

I think men's opinions are less about parental responsibility and more driven by the economy. When the economy is great, they want the wives to stay home. When their paycheck isn't enough, they want the women to work. Women's opinions, well, they're all over the place because women are notoriously fickle.

[Gravdigr]

Wimmins, they be tricksy.

[gvidas]

re: the NYT graph about millennial men:

https://scatter.wordpress.com/2017/0...irmation-bias/

TL;DR: the NYT graph uses a really small sample size, doesn't include 2016 data.

The GSS surveys are pretty small – about 2,000-3,000 per wave – so once you split by sample, and then split by age, and then exclude the older millennials (age 26-34) who don’t show any negative trend in gender equality, you’re left with cells of about 60-100 men ages 18-25 per wave. Standard errors on any given year are 6-8 percent.

[Undertoad]

WOW good work gvidas.

Garbage statistics in the NY fuckin' Times...

[Griff]

I guess that's how Dewey beats Truman.

[xoxoxoBruce]

exclude the older millennials (age 26-34) who don’t show any negative trend in gender equality,

But the graph does indicate that in the labeling? Are they talking about why, rather than what, it shows?

[BigV]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But the graph does indicate that in the labeling? Are they talking about why, rather than what, it shows?

Well, the graph you posted did say "Young people, old views". It did not say millenials, where gvidas substituted that label. Both graphs clearly indicate which age groups are being illustrated. the NYT did not say that millenials are ages 18-25.

As for "why", the author of the original NYT article does offer an opinion, supporting it with other studies. Her main thrust is that uncertain economic times have made it necessary, but much more difficult given the dearth of family friendly work and social policies. She suggests that it's unsurprising that the participants in the survey would *want* an environment where one partner would be the "breadwinner" and the other partner would be the "homemaker".
From the NYT article:

As a set of reports released Friday by the Council on Contemporary Families reveals, fewer of the youngest millennials, those aged 18 to 25, support egalitarian family arrangements than did the same age group 20 years earlier.

It might be the fucking New York Times, but they're a serious journalistic enterprise, even extending those standards to the Opinion pages, as evidenced by this:

Update: After this article was posted, 2016 data from the General Social Survey became available, adding some nuance to this analysis. The latest numbers show a rebound in young men’s disagreement with the claim that male-breadwinner families are superior. The trend still confirms a rise in traditionalism among high school seniors and 18-to-25-year-olds, but the new data shows that this rise is no longer driven mainly by young men, as it was in the General Social Survey results from 1994 through 2014.

Despite the fact that the new evidence reduces the size of the statistical evidence the author points to in her essay, she includes it nonetheless. I find this a reassuring hallmark of honesty and integrity. She, like the New York Times overall, wants to get the story right, and wants to keep getting the story right. This in contrast to "Believe me."

[xoxoxoBruce]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, what the fuck are you talking about, the graph I posted had nothing to do with millennials or the NYT.

[BigV]

CORRECTION:

My mistake. The graph Undertoad posted. All else remains the same.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Forget zombies, as the climate warms Dragons may reappear.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Seat belt use, I think the numbers are about 87% for women and 81% for men.

[Flint]

Apparently I've only ever lived in counties where almost everyone wears their seat belts. Perspective. I thought everyone, everywhere wore seat belts.

eta:
I'm currently in the least seat belt-wearing place I've ever lived, and I like it better here.