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Old 08-11-2014, 09:39 PM   #1
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All RW youtube clips are telling me to try again later. I didn't realize it was so recent -I though it was something I'd missed because I've had not interwebs and barely any radio for a few days
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:40 PM   #2
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If I had a desk I would stand on top of it right now!

I'm heartbroken too. It don't make no sense.
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:50 PM   #3
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don't think I've ever cried for a celeb before
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:04 PM   #4
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But I get it. It's a pretty tough one to take.

*hugz*

Here's Garp (I'm a big Irving fan as well)

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Old 08-12-2014, 01:51 AM   #5
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Ah man. That makes me want to cry.
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:13 AM   #6
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'The World According to Garp' (film and, at one time, book) is a favorite of mine.

It always seemed/seems to be forgotten movie, never mentioned.

Certainly, I never heard Williams mention it, but then: he was always makin' with the funnies so...
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:01 AM   #7
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'The World According to Garp' (film and, at one time, book) is a favorite of mine.

It always seemed/seems to be forgotten movie, never mentioned.

Certainly, I never heard Williams mention it, but then: he was always makin' with the funnies so...
I agree. Close and Lithgow were both nominated for oscars for their roles (love me some Lithgow too.)

I think I need a re-watch, and a re-read.
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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM   #8
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that clip may be quite apropos, IM.

I was thinking about depression. I don't remember hearing any poor people complain about it. It seems to be a rich person problem, doesn't it?

I'm wondering, that if people don't have enough adversity in their lives, are they somehow driven to create it? His money could have been his black gloves. any thing he wanted, for years and years.... he could get it, because he was so rich.... but did that take all the reward away, all the joy?

is that WHY he was into cocaine and drinking.... the loss of control? when in his normal life, everything was TOO easy?

Poor people are too busy surviving to worry about how depressed they are. they don't dwell on their sadness. they have to get to work, and to do that, they have to get their car fixed, so they have to get up early and jump the battery again... and then go to the laundromat to clean that uniform, and get the kids off to school, and what are they going to eat tonight, there's only $17 until payday....

I bet they sleep just fine when they finally lie down in bed.
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:42 PM   #9
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that clip may be quite apropos, IM.
Thanks jim, I think it really is. Very poignant.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:18 AM   #10
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that clip may be quite apropos, IM.

I was thinking about depression. I don't remember hearing any poor people complain about it. It seems to be a rich person problem, doesn't it?

I'm wondering, that if people don't have enough adversity in their lives, are they somehow driven to create it? His money could have been his black gloves. any thing he wanted, for years and years.... he could get it, because he was so rich.... but did that take all the reward away, all the joy?

is that WHY he was into cocaine and drinking.... the loss of control? when in his normal life, everything was TOO easy?

Poor people are too busy surviving to worry about how depressed they are. they don't dwell on their sadness. they have to get to work, and to do that, they have to get their car fixed, so they have to get up early and jump the battery again... and then go to the laundromat to clean that uniform, and get the kids off to school, and what are they going to eat tonight, there's only $17 until payday....

I bet they sleep just fine when they finally lie down in bed.
Jim, have you ever been poor? What's the longest you've been unemployed? Ever been homeless? Ever lived, literally, on the street? Have you ever suffered from depression? I mean the disease...not when you felt down last time the Cowboys lost.

If you are not experienced in those things, I do believe you are speaking out of your ass on this.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:30 AM   #11
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I remember in one of Robin Williams' stand up shows he was talking about how his cat got into his stash of drugs.

He found the cat sitting up in the corner, with his back against the wall, staring at his paws going "Me-, me-, goddammit, how does that go again?"



The absolute manic energy that man had at times...


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Old 08-13-2014, 09:31 AM   #12
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Jim, have you ever been poor? What's the longest you've been unemployed? Ever been homeless? Ever lived, literally, on the street? Have you ever suffered from depression? I mean the disease...not when you felt down last time the Cowboys lost.

If you are not experienced in those things, I do believe you are speaking out of your ass on this.
I've lived in a van for 3 months. Was the happiest I remember being.

I am speaking out my ass, but not because I haven't been poor. Because I'm a happy person and I can't relate. That's why I phrased my comments as speculation.

I work my fucking ass off. Did 26 hours in the last 2 days. I get down like anyone else, it's just not chemical. It passes. Don't start taking tones with me. I'll beat you down and bring you up right.
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Old 08-13-2014, 10:00 AM   #13
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Was the happiest I remember being.
VAN?!? You were the guy we wanted to be when we hit the lottery! You were the homeless elite! You lived in a mobile condo!

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I am speaking out my ass, but not because I haven't been poor. Because I'm a happy person and I can't relate.
I sincerely hope your situation in life enables you to remain this happy person. Rly.[/no tone]

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I work my fucking ass off.
As did I.

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It passes.
Right up til it doesn't anymore. Be wary.

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Don't start taking tones with me. I'll beat you down and bring you up right.
Didn't mean to come off 'toney'. And, I'd rather not be beaten.

You can lap my filthy bag, though. And, if mine ain't filthy enough for ya, ya can lap your own. Ya filthy bag-lapper.
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Old 08-13-2014, 02:22 PM   #14
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I work my fucking ass off. Did 26 hours in the last 2 days. I get down like anyone else, it's just not chemical. It passes.
That's the thing, in the past we always described a bunch of problems weighing on you as being depressed. Usually time and work would solve those problems and you'd feel better, but some couldn't.

Now all of a sudden there's a medical condition, chemical imbalance, they're giving the same goddamn name to. So when three people talk about depression, they could be thinking about something completely different, and cocksure they are right.

Another one, Autism. Most people had a rough grasp of what you were talking about when you mentioned it. But now, lo and behold, Autism is no longer a condition, it's a whole damn spectrum of conditions/problems, many with their own name. It seem half of clodfobble's posts on the subject are trying to educate people about the different points on the spectrum.

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Old 08-12-2014, 04:43 PM   #15
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No, Jim, I think you're very wrong there. Poor people with depression expect to be depressed/are expected to be depressed/self-medicate with drink or drugs until they die of excess/get treatment of they're lucky but don't hit the headlines because they have to just get on with the struggle. I can think of several examples among my RL and online acquaintance.
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