New section discussion: somethingland

Undertoad · 11-12-2012, 12:29 AM

Sexobon pointed out to me that Nothingland is "being crowded by various somethings to the point where those pursuing games, diversions and time wasters can feel guilty about bumping those threads after a significant something has been modestly posted in Nothingland. It's also becoming difficult to wade through the somethings to find the nothings and vice versa."

I agree, but I said that we should at least talk about it in Meta so we are clear about what's happening on the Cellar. The proposal here is that we create Somethingland, to hold threads that are actually meaningful and important to folks, such as the "What" kind of threads that are certainly more than Nothing.

glatt · 11-12-2012, 06:43 AM

It's a good idea.

Undertoad · 11-12-2012, 06:49 AM

Keep posting in this thread to remind me - I'm crazy busy right now and will probably forget to get this done

Trilby · 11-12-2012, 07:24 AM

I like the idea of somethingland.

Clodfobble · 11-12-2012, 08:55 AM

I agree that Nothingland is abused with substantial content.

On the other hand, what's the difference between Somethingland, and Home Base?

Flint · 11-12-2012, 10:23 AM

I as well cannot conceptualize what the distinction would be between the existing Home Base, and the proposed Somethingland. Home Base is (if I understand correcly) the place for substantive, but hard-to-catagorize threads; whereas Nothingland is for the fluff. That being said, we already have to make a value judgment between two "general" sections--how is adding a third "Goldilocks" category going to help us? In my opinion this just adds another rabbit hole for the thread you're looking for to be buried in.

SamIam · 11-12-2012, 01:01 PM

People have been posting some pretty heavy duty stuff in Nothingland. It's like "I really don't want to bother anyone, but since you're apparently not busy, seeing as how you're looking at stuff in Nothingland, maybe you won't mind reading my post here and I'm not being a drama queen - it's Nothing really."

Sometimes people need to get stuff out, but try not to make a big deal over it. In such instances, I think they'll continue to post in Nothingland, even if they have the option of Somethingland. Just my humble opinion.

glatt · 11-12-2012, 01:07 PM

I use the post whore thread a lot because I don't feel like what I'm posting rises to the level of being important enough for its own thread. Plus, what if I do start my own thread for one of those things, and I only get a polite comment or two? I'll feel more like my thread is a failure.

Clodfobble · 11-12-2012, 01:11 PM

Is it rude and/or too much work to have moderators move things out of Nothingland with greater discretion, when appropriate?

jimhelm · 11-12-2012, 01:12 PM

Something, something, something, dark siiiiide

Clodfobble · 11-12-2012, 01:24 PM

I would like to note that I am tickled by the name "Somethingland," and would vote to rename Home Base even if nothing else changes.

jimhelm · 11-12-2012, 01:25 PM

2nd!

Flint · 11-12-2012, 01:40 PM

3rd. This would be less, not more, confusing.

Pooka 4ths this.

limey · 11-12-2012, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I would like to note that I am tickled by the name "Somethingland," and would vote to rename Home Base even if nothing else changes.

That seems a good idea. But then it would, it came from Clodfobble's brain.

BigV · 11-12-2012, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I agree that Nothingland is abused with substantial content.

On the other hand, what's the difference between Somethingland, and Home Base?

we have somethingland already, it's called Home Base.

11-12-2012, 12:29 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	New section discussion: somethingland Sexobon pointed out to me that Nothingland is "being crowded by various somethings to the point where those pursuing games, diversions and time wasters can feel guilty about bumping those threads after a significant something has been modestly posted in Nothingland. It's also becoming difficult to wade through the somethings to find the nothings and vice versa." I agree, but I said that we should at least talk about it in Meta so we are clear about what's happening on the Cellar. The proposal here is that we create Somethingland, to hold threads that are actually meaningful and important to folks, such as the "What" kind of threads that are certainly more than Nothing.

11-12-2012, 07:24 AM	#4
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I like the idea of somethingland. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-12-2012, 08:55 AM	#5
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I agree that Nothingland is abused with substantial content. On the other hand, what's the difference between Somethingland, and Home Base? __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

11-12-2012, 10:23 AM	#6
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I as well cannot conceptualize what the distinction would be between the existing Home Base, and the proposed Somethingland. Home Base is (if I understand correcly) the place for substantive, but hard-to-catagorize threads; whereas Nothingland is for the fluff. That being said, we already have to make a value judgment between two "general" sections--how is adding a third "Goldilocks" category going to help us? In my opinion this just adds another rabbit hole for the thread you're looking for to be buried in. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

11-12-2012, 01:11 PM	#9
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Is it rude and/or too much work to have moderators move things out of Nothingland with greater discretion, when appropriate? __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

11-12-2012, 06:43 AM	#2
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	It's a good idea.

11-12-2012, 06:49 AM	#3
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Keep posting in this thread to remind me - I'm crazy busy right now and will probably forget to get this done

11-12-2012, 01:01 PM	#7
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	People have been posting some pretty heavy duty stuff in Nothingland. It's like "I really don't want to bother anyone, but since you're apparently not busy, seeing as how you're looking at stuff in Nothingland, maybe you won't mind reading my post here and I'm not being a drama queen - it's Nothing really." Sometimes people need to get stuff out, but try not to make a big deal over it. In such instances, I think they'll continue to post in Nothingland, even if they have the option of Somethingland. Just my humble opinion.

11-12-2012, 01:07 PM	#8
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I use the post whore thread a lot because I don't feel like what I'm posting rises to the level of being important enough for its own thread. Plus, what if I do start my own thread for one of those things, and I only get a polite comment or two? I'll feel more like my thread is a failure.

11-12-2012, 01:12 PM	#10
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	Something, something, something, dark siiiiide __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

11-12-2012, 01:24 PM	#11
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I would like to note that I am tickled by the name "Somethingland," and would vote to rename Home Base even if nothing else changes. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

11-12-2012, 01:25 PM	#12
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	2nd! __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

11-12-2012, 01:40 PM	#13
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	3rd. This would be less, not more, confusing. Pooka 4ths this. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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