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TheMercenary · 05-30-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

The human beings who are being murdered.
If you kill someone for any reason other than immediate self-defense, it is murder.
You can dehumanize them all you want, but murdering innocents is not cost effective.
Once it becomes clear it has happened your state will be liable and should have to pay the family of the murdered victim millions because assholes supported state-sanctioned murder because they wanted to feel powerful and cool and for NO OTHER REASON.
Punished implies you are teaching them something, if one is murdered, they have learned nothing... your bulb is petty dim these days.

Dim is better than off IMHO. "Murder" as you would call it is your opinion. Nothing more.

Punishment is the death penalty. It is not "murder". It is not to set an example. It is the ultimate form of punishment. Capital Punishment.

05-30-2007, 01:34 PM

You go ahead with your murderous ranting... done with you. You just want to see people killed and could care less who they are.

TheMercenary · 05-30-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

You go ahead with your murderous ranting... done with you. You just want to see people killed and could care less who they are.

(double post)

TheMercenary · 05-30-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

You go ahead with your murderous ranting... done with you. You just want to see people killed and could care less who they are.

More opinion. And you are welcome to it. As I am mine.

Shawnee123 · 05-30-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Punishment is the death penalty. It is not "murder". It is not to set an example. It is the ultimate form of punishment. Capital Punishment.

Seems to me you're putting them out of their misery. Let's see, endure years of being butt-fucked in the mouth, or get a shot so you can drift peacefully away?

Totally callous joke, but there are those who would say death is not a punishment.

nitro1364 · 05-30-2007, 03:07 PM

we could solve this with a 30 cent bullet

piercehawkeye45 · 05-30-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Does it really make that much difference to them to be in maximum security?
What about the ones that say, "Yeah, I did it and would rather die then be locked up. Would you honor their wishes?

You could slip them a razor and then later wonder where it came from....

xoxoxoBruce · 05-30-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Are you familiar with the term Cognitive Dissonance?

Yes, but that's your problem.

Everyone executed has been proven guilty by the legal system. Saying the legal system can't be 100% perfect does not mean the must be executing innocent people. If they are in your state then do something about it. I'm comfortable with mine.

piercehawkeye45 · 05-30-2007, 07:55 PM

Bruce is right, it just says there will be a chance that you will execute an innocent person, not that you will. We probably wouldn't know if we executed an innocent person anyways.

I am against captial punishment because I don't see the need of killing someone. Let them perform community service and manuel labor for the rest of their lives, it will at least be useful.

TheMercenary · 05-30-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Bruce is right, it just says there will be a chance that you will execute an innocent person, not that you will. We probably wouldn't know if we executed an innocent person anyways.

I am against captial punishment because I don't see the need of killing someone. Let them perform community service and manuel labor for the rest of their lives, it will at least be useful.

Nice comfy thought but I don't think I want guys on death row doing community service.

Flint · 05-30-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Everyone executed has been proven guilty by the legal system.
Saying the legal system can't be 100% perfect does not mean the must be executing innocent people.

Oh, Bruce. The possibility exists that an innocent person could be executed. Point-Blank Question: Do you agree? Yes or No?

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Originally Posted by Bruce

If they are in your state then do something about it. I'm comfortable with mine.

Going on the offensive, huh? Nice.

piercehawkeye45 · 05-30-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Nice comfy thought but I don't think I want guys on death row doing community service.

Well, certain community servicies.

I was thinking more on the lines of cleaning up communities and making it look nicer, writing books for kids, making music, and giving speeches at schools to help avoid the path that they took. The personal community service is obviously off-limits.

Flint · 05-30-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Bruce is right, it just says there will be a chance that you will execute an innocent person, not that you will.
We probably wouldn't know if we executed an innocent person anyways.

You don't have to tell me "Bruce is right" - he just repeated what I've been saying that all along.

The fact that we wouldn't specifically know an innocent person was executed doesn't mean it couldn't happen, or render it "okay" via anonymity.

piercehawkeye45 · 05-30-2007, 08:07 PM

I skipped through the middle part because it looked like you were going over the same thing.

I thought you said that it was inevitable that we would kill an innocent person and I disagreed with that. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

TheMercenary · 05-30-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Well, certain community servicies.

I was thinking more on the lines of cleaning up communities and making it look nicer, writing books for kids, making music, and giving speeches at schools to help avoid the path that they took. The personal community service is obviously off-limits.

Yea, John Wayne Gracy writing kids books, that would be a hit...

05-30-2007, 01:34 PM	#62
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	You go ahead with your murderous ranting... done with you. You just want to see people killed and could care less who they are.

05-30-2007, 03:07 PM	#66
nitro1364 Sibling of the Commonweal Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dixon, Illinois Posts: 16	we could solve this with a 30 cent bullet

05-30-2007, 07:55 PM	#69
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Bruce is right, it just says there will be a chance that you will execute an innocent person, not that you will. We probably wouldn't know if we executed an innocent person anyways. I am against captial punishment because I don't see the need of killing someone. Let them perform community service and manuel labor for the rest of their lives, it will at least be useful.

05-30-2007, 08:07 PM	#74
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	I skipped through the middle part because it looked like you were going over the same thing. I thought you said that it was inevitable that we would kill an innocent person and I disagreed with that. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

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