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Old 02-17-2020, 02:19 PM   #1
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Why?

Seriously, why?

Specifically, why?
Because he's a two bit, low-rent fascist who has done more damage to our system than any other president.

And when I say "fascist", I mean "fascist", not "someone I don't like."
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Old 02-17-2020, 04:42 PM   #2
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Because he's a two bit, low-rent fascist who has done more damage to our system than any other president.

And when I say "fascist", I mean "fascist", not "someone I don't like."
What damage, specifically?
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:08 PM   #3
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What damage, specifically?
You mean, aside from trashing the military for his stupid wall, making toddler gulags an actual thing, installing lobbyists as the heads of their opposing agencies, ripping up our alliances, trashing the cattle industry by backing out of the TPP, and using the government as his personal cash cow?
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Old 02-17-2020, 11:00 PM   #4
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and then the 2nd month...

Henry, as I understand your position you want hands off businesses, no government regulations.

Here's what happens with no regulations and this is in warm & fuzzy Canada, there's no reason to believe it wouldn't be the same or worse here.

No regulations.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:33 AM   #5
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"Henry, as I understand your position you want hands off businesses, no government regulations."

Yep, in a free nation, with minimal watchmen proxies, with self-reliant and -directing citizens.

Today, in a controlled nation, with a monstrous government, with a largely domesticated citizenry: nope.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:27 AM   #6
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"trashing the military for his stupid wall"

How much did my employee divert? How badly did soldiers get stung?

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"making toddler gulags an actual thing"

When exactly did cagin' illegal aliens start?

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"installing lobbyists as the heads of their opposing agencies"

Surely, my employee is not the first to scratch backs?

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"ripping up our alliances"

Takin' care of nations that can fend for themselves isn't 'alliance', it's 'babysitting'.

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"trashing the cattle industry by backing out of the TPP"

Don't know nuthin' about the cattle industry. Me, I favor individual contract and treaty (individual to individual) not blanket affairs.

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"using the government as his personal cash cow"

My employee is raidin' the coffers? I want his orange head on a stick! Help a brother out and lay some specifics on me.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:43 AM   #7
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My employee is raidin' the coffers? I want his orange head on a stick! Help a brother out and lay some specifics on me.
We could start with his financial interest in the steel that's going into the wall.

Or just the fact that he deliberately billets his secret service and occasional military members in his hotels and charges book.

I mean, if you're okay with corruption, I can see how none of this would bother you.
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Old 02-18-2020, 10:25 AM   #8
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We could start with his financial interest in the steel that's going into the wall.

Or just the fact that he deliberately billets his secret service and occasional military members in his hotels and charges book.

I mean, if you're okay with corruption, I can see how none of this would bother you.
As I say, as long as he's doin' what I hired him to do, I don't care about the rest.

More broadly: in my experience, folks only get their knickers in a twist about corruption when it's the other tribe's corruption.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:45 AM   #9
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Surely, my employee is not the first to scratch backs?
Okay. So these aren't actually principles, just he's "your employee."

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Old 02-18-2020, 10:31 AM   #10
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Okay. So these aren't actually principles, just he's "your employee."

My principles are paramount in this: I believe I own myself. I believe I have the right to self-defend. The gov is my enemy: it'll kill me or leash me. Trump is a jagged broken beer bottle for me to hold up to the whore's throat.

Trump, as I say, is an instrument.
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:34 AM   #11
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My principles are paramount in this: I believe I own myself. I believe I have the right to self-defend. The gov is my enemy: it'll kill me or leash me. Trump is a jagged broken beer bottle for me to hold up to the whore's throat.

Trump, as I say, is an instrument.
So, using fascism as a means to secure freedom.

That's certainly one for the books.
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