4/26/2005: Agent Orange victim - Page 3

xoxoxoBruce · 04-29-2005, 04:10 AM

AGAIN, yeah, so what can we do about it??????

Troubleshooter · 04-29-2005, 09:01 AM

Well, the appropriate liberal response would be to file a class action suit on the part of all of the funny looking kids, give them all 15 million dollars, feel good about ourselves and then promptly forget about it.

wolf · 04-29-2005, 11:01 AM

The lawsuits for Vietnamese citizens have been filed.

The class action lawsuit on behalf of vietnam vets settled so fast (back in 1985?) that ONLY people who had designated themsevlves as part of the class could recover damages, and no one after that date is permitted to identify themselves as part of that class, and no one can initiate a new lawsuit on behalf of vietnam vets.

wolf · 04-29-2005, 11:11 AM

Oh, and Dioxin exposure tends to cause an assortment of particularly nasty and usually rare cancers, leukemia, and some skin rashes. In children exposed in utero or possibly resulting from contamination in male or female parent spina bifida is the most common, with some other conditions (Achondroplasia, Cleft lip and cleft palate, Congenital heart disease, Congenital talipes equinovarus (clubfoot), Esophageal and intestinal atresia, Hallerman-Streiff syndrome, Hip dysplasia, Hydrocephalus due to aqueductal stenosis, Hypospadias, Imperforate anus, Neural tube defects (including spina bifida, encephalocele, and anencephaly), Poland syndrome, Pyloric stenosis, Syndactyly (fused digits), Tracheoesophageal fistula, Undescended testicle, Williams syndrome)
being identified as qualifying vets for benefits if the condition is not congenital in his/her family.

BigV · 04-29-2005, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worldpress.org

Who Poisoned Yushchenko?

Zornitsa Stoyanova-Yerburgh
Worldpress.org contributing editor
December 13, 2004
Yushchenko before and after his poisoning

Ukraine's opposition presidential candidiate Viktor Yushchenko before and after his poisoning.

Austrian doctors have confirmed that Ukraine's opposition presidential candidate Victor Yushchenko has been poisoned with dioxin. The highly toxic substance was ingested orally and was probably given to him by a "third party."

http://www.worldpress.org/Europe/1995.cfm

Perhaps not Agent Orange, but dioxin.
before and after

BigV · 04-29-2005, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worldpress.org

Who Poisoned Yushchenko?

Zornitsa Stoyanova-Yerburgh
Worldpress.org contributing editor
December 13, 2004
Yushchenko before and after his poisoning

Ukraine's opposition presidential candidiate Viktor Yushchenko before and after his poisoning.

Austrian doctors have confirmed that Ukraine's opposition presidential candidate Victor Yushchenko has been poisoned with dioxin. The highly toxic substance was ingested orally and was probably given to him by a "third party."

http://www.worldpress.org/Europe/1995.cfm

Perhaps not Agent Orange, but dioxin.

busterb · 04-29-2005, 02:16 PM

By God! Big V, You do try to get your point across.

BigV · 04-29-2005, 02:21 PM

*ahem*

Thanks busterb, I wrestled with the image link and didn't notice that the "rough drafts" were still posted. Sorry for the wasted resources.

deleted mistakes now.

wolf · 04-29-2005, 03:15 PM

You missed one ...

warch · 04-29-2005, 03:42 PM

Well, the appropriate liberal response would be to file a class action suit on the part of all of the funny looking kids, give them all 15 million dollars, feel good about ourselves and then promptly forget about it.

No. I think the appropriate liberal response would be to investigate the claims further ( a lawsuit is obviously neccessary to demand governmental and corporate attention), build a working relationship with the Vietnamese on this issue that strives to move beyond political games, respond with justice and compassion to the afflicted- including any Vets still suffering, to those found to have been made ill by our toxic dump or those at continuing risk, this compassion taking the form of funding internationally collaborative healthcare support, environmental education, and cleanup as possible. The appropriate liberal response I think, is rational and civil.

wolf · 04-29-2005, 03:43 PM

Is that before or after the traditional knee jerk reaction?

warch · 04-29-2005, 03:50 PM

Apparently, decades after.

glatt · 04-29-2005, 04:07 PM

If ever.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-29-2005, 06:14 PM

Since nobody seems to have a way to clean it up, and it doesn't appear to be abating, the obvious solution is relocating. I suggest Texas.

LCanal · 04-29-2005, 08:38 PM

Untill then I'll look forward to a remake of John Candy's ConeHeads

04-29-2005, 04:10 AM	#31
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	AGAIN, yeah, so what can we do about it?????? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-29-2005, 09:01 AM	#32
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Well, the appropriate liberal response would be to file a class action suit on the part of all of the funny looking kids, give them all 15 million dollars, feel good about ourselves and then promptly forget about it. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

04-29-2005, 11:01 AM	#33
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	The lawsuits for Vietnamese citizens have been filed. The class action lawsuit on behalf of vietnam vets settled so fast (back in 1985?) that ONLY people who had designated themsevlves as part of the class could recover damages, and no one after that date is permitted to identify themselves as part of that class, and no one can initiate a new lawsuit on behalf of vietnam vets. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-29-2005, 11:11 AM	#34
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Oh, and Dioxin exposure tends to cause an assortment of particularly nasty and usually rare cancers, leukemia, and some skin rashes. In children exposed in utero or possibly resulting from contamination in male or female parent spina bifida is the most common, with some other conditions (Achondroplasia, Cleft lip and cleft palate, Congenital heart disease, Congenital talipes equinovarus (clubfoot), Esophageal and intestinal atresia, Hallerman-Streiff syndrome, Hip dysplasia, Hydrocephalus due to aqueductal stenosis, Hypospadias, Imperforate anus, Neural tube defects (including spina bifida, encephalocele, and anencephaly), Poland syndrome, Pyloric stenosis, Syndactyly (fused digits), Tracheoesophageal fistula, Undescended testicle, Williams syndrome) being identified as qualifying vets for benefits if the condition is not congenital in his/her family. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-29-2005, 02:16 PM	#37
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	By God! Big V, You do try to get your point across. __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

04-29-2005, 02:21 PM	#38
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	ahem Thanks busterb, I wrestled with the image link and didn't notice that the "rough drafts" were still posted. Sorry for the wasted resources. deleted mistakes now. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

04-29-2005, 03:15 PM	#39
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	You missed one ... __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-29-2005, 03:42 PM	#40
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Well, the appropriate liberal response would be to file a class action suit on the part of all of the funny looking kids, give them all 15 million dollars, feel good about ourselves and then promptly forget about it. No. I think the appropriate liberal response would be to investigate the claims further ( a lawsuit is obviously neccessary to demand governmental and corporate attention), build a working relationship with the Vietnamese on this issue that strives to move beyond political games, respond with justice and compassion to the afflicted- including any Vets still suffering, to those found to have been made ill by our toxic dump or those at continuing risk, this compassion taking the form of funding internationally collaborative healthcare support, environmental education, and cleanup as possible. The appropriate liberal response I think, is rational and civil.

04-29-2005, 03:43 PM	#41
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Is that before or after the traditional knee jerk reaction? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-29-2005, 03:50 PM	#42
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Apparently, decades after.

04-29-2005, 04:07 PM	#43
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	If ever.

04-29-2005, 06:14 PM	#44
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Since nobody seems to have a way to clean it up, and it doesn't appear to be abating, the obvious solution is relocating. I suggest Texas. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-29-2005, 08:38 PM	#45
LCanal I hope to be the kind of person my dog thinks I am Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sumatra Posts: 257	Untill then I'll look forward to a remake of John Candy's ConeHeads __________________ "Happiness is like sex. In order to get any good out of it, you have to give it to someone else."

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