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Old 03-06-2019, 11:55 AM   #1
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It's 33F on my patio right now. It was 7F this morning when I fed the Cats. It is supposed to get progressively warmer this week the mid 40's next week. I'm ready to break out the shorts and sandals.
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:08 PM   #2
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I got Mr Heater to light yesterday, so Yay. I'll see if I can find a Picture.
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:10 PM   #3
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Patio heater?

Or one of these?

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Old 03-06-2019, 12:46 PM   #4
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Patio heater it mounts on a 20lb tank. This is what I have.
https://www.farmandfleet.com/product...hoCKRcQAvD_BwE
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Old 03-06-2019, 02:54 PM   #5
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I think Popdigr has one of those, a two-burner.
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Old 03-07-2019, 09:44 AM   #6
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Love your story slang, thanks!

Here, snow again. Slippery trip to work.
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Old 03-07-2019, 09:06 PM   #7
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:49 AM   #8
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during the cycle of the day. or something
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Old 03-09-2019, 11:23 AM   #9
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Old 03-09-2019, 01:01 PM   #10
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Old 03-09-2019, 09:41 PM   #11
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If you don't like that company, here's a Swiss company successfully doing carbon capture

I imagine it's not a technologically difficult problem, since co2 is a simple molecule -- even the plants have worked out to grab it -- the problem will be economics and scale
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Old 03-10-2019, 03:01 AM   #12
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As costs went down the number of lights went up. Now we're over lit, much more than we need, so as those incandescent and florescent lights are replaced with LEDs, electric consumption for lighting should go down.
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Old 03-10-2019, 04:46 PM   #13
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Now we're over lit, much more than we need, so as those incandescent and florescent lights are replaced with LEDs, electric consumption for lighting should go down.
Same reasoning existed when gas lamps lit NYC streets. People even hated fluorescent lamps because they were too white.

Simply view all those street lights in the 1950s. Why do number of street lights keep increasing? Because the streets are not yet as bright as the sun.

IEEE Spectrum demonstrated this with numbers. In over 100 years, it never got too bright. No fact says we have enough lights. That is simply speculation unsupported by any research.

Chevy Chase's "Christmas Vacation" is ironically funny because that need for more lights is more common every Christmas. Trend cited over 10 years ago in IEEE Spectrum has continued as predicted. So much so that 'light pollution' is a new and 'getting worse' problem.

Don't tell the North Koreans. They might get angry or deny it. Or maybe light up our skies to prove their nuclear lights are better than our LEDs and quantum dots.
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Old 03-10-2019, 05:51 PM   #14
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Light pollution has been a problem for awhile. People like having the street lit up enough to be able to walk or bicycle without lights but don't want the yard lit up, especially at soul searing levels like vapor lights. You'd know that if you listened to people instead of lecturing them on what you've decided they want/need.
The best thing about LEDs is you can have more of them to light small areas where you want some light instead of having to carpet bomb the whole area to get light where you need it. The net result is using a lot less juice and not having the hedges growing night and day.
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:29 AM   #15
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The best thing about LEDs is you can have more of them to light small areas where you want some light instead of having to carpet bomb the whole area to get light where you need it.
So that is your feelings. Where is the research that says less light? It does not exist. And that was a point in that IEEE Spectrum article. Despite your reasoning, the amount of light generated and the amount of power used for lighting just keeps increasing.

Clark Griswold demonstrates a trend confirmed by research. Only speculation (contradicted by many decades) assumes this trend will reverse.
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