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Old 04-05-2006, 10:01 AM   #1
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Brian Doyle Homeland Security Deputy Press Secretary Arrested

http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=4727267


Homeland Security Deputy Press Secretary arrested









MIAMI The deputy press secretary for the Department of Homeland Security has been arrested. Authorities say he used the Internet to try to seduce what he thought was a teenage girl.

Brian Doyle was arrested on charges of use of a computer to seduce a child and transmission of harmful material to a minor. The charges were issued out of Polk County, Florida.

The Polk County Sheriff's Office says Doyle had a sexually explicit conversation with what he believed was a 14-year-old girl whose profile he saw on the Internet.

The "girl" was actually an undercover Polk County Sheriff's Computer Crimes detective.

The Homeland Security press secretary said he could not comment on the details of the investigation. Russ Knocke promised full cooperation.

Doyle is expected to be placed on administrative leave Wednesday morning.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:27 AM   #2
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Authorities say he used the Internet to try to seduce what he thought was a teenage girl.
Nonsense. He was simply investigating a possible terrorist and was merely testing them with materials a true Muslim extremist would find highly offensive.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:31 AM   #3
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Nonsense. He was simply investigating a possible terrorist and was merely testing them with materials a true Muslim extremist would find highly offensive.
Oh, doh! why did i not think of that?! I am just a silly citizen who can not think for myself.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:34 AM   #4
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Somewhere in the back of my head I am forming the impression that there are no actual 12 and 13 year old girls on the internet, just 40something sex crimes detectives.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:43 AM   #5
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Just so we don't misunderstand each other here, I want to say right up front that men who prey on children should have their gonads placed up against an open car door frame, and then have the door kicked shut by the child's parents.

That being said...why isn't posing as a 13 year old girl in order to nab potential child molesters considered to be entrapment? I guess it isn't, as these cases stand up in court time after time, but it seems a little dicey to me from a Constitutional standpoint.

Could one of our Constitutional scholars please enlighten me? Radar? TW?

Oh, and BTW...I think that it is hysterical that one of the current administration's minions got nailed for something like this. I just wish he were higher up and more important.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:47 AM   #6
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Doyle should be arrested for terminal stupidity. What? He didn't think someone might not trace his ISP? He didn't even bother to use one of those "cloaking" programs? Well, I guess we don't have to worry about Homeland Security monitoring anything that goes on on the Internet. Jeez!

Wolf, there actually is a 14 year old girl who uses the Internet (well, she WAS 14). She showed me how to do chat and post on discussion groups. Her user name was "Slychickas" if you ever encounter her and want revenge.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:55 AM   #7
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I love this story. This guy should fry.

When undercover agents act as underage girls online, they do nothing wrong. They never initiate or tantalize. There's nothing unconstitutional about it in my eyes.

Unfortunately, in a sense, it would seem to only catch the STUPIDEST pedophiles. But it's great when it's this high profile too... gives them all something to think about.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:56 AM   #8
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That being said...why isn't posing as a 13 year old girl in order to nab potential child molesters considered to be entrapment? I guess it isn't, as these cases stand up in court time after time, but it seems a little dicey to me from a Constitutional standpoint.
The poser juveniles do not contact the perp 1st. They wait for contact by the perp and allow the perp to start the sexual come ons. So no, it is not entrapment.


This moron actually (according to the news ~ for what THAT is worth)

He told "her" his real name and that he is "Deputy Press Secretary Homeland Security" and sent his official photo. Because the Officers did not know what exactly he had access to, they arrested him WHILE he was still online with the detective.

Wow, I feel safe and secure with brainiacs like him running our Country. Don't you??
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:57 AM   #9
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How come you're allowed to hook up with 14 year old girls and I'm not.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:00 AM   #10
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How come you're allowed to hook up with 14 year old girls and I'm not.
who is "you're"? point the direction and i will kill it!
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:01 AM   #11
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How come you're allowed to hook up with 14 year old girls and I'm not.
You talking to me? She was the daughter of the BF I had at the time. Maybe you could find a boyfriend with a 14 year old daughter, too.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:06 AM   #12
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Just so we don't misunderstand each other here, I want to say right up front that men who prey on children should have their gonads placed up against an open car door frame, and then have the door kicked shut by the child's parents.

That being said...why isn't posing as a 13 year old girl in order to nab potential child molesters considered to be entrapment? I guess it isn't, as these cases stand up in court time after time, but it seems a little dicey to me from a Constitutional standpoint.

Along similar lines, how can a man who was sitting in a jail cell on 9/11/2001 be charged for murder for the terrorist activities that took place that day simply because he knew a little about them and misled police? Wouldn't that be obstruction of justice, not murder? Insert caveat about slamming his balls in a car door because he is a sworn enemy of the US.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:06 AM   #13
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Throw in a 14 year old daughter and I might accept a boyfriend.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:09 AM   #14
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Wouldn't that be obstruction of justice, not murder?
Allowing deaths he could have prevented is close enough. Besides, US government = they can do that.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:19 AM   #15
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Throw in a 14 year old daughter and I might accept a boyfriend.

*kills you after cutting your balls off with a dull stick* :p


say, with a name like "bruce" should you not already have a boyfriend?

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