well! now that it has a museum I guess that makes it legit.

cowhead · 02-12-2005, 01:22 PM

whilst mindlessly surfing along the 'ol information super highway.. I stumbed across this. now, I'm not a believer in the whole corporate religion thing and I find the debate between evolution and creationism to be a waste of time (although an entertaining one.. and great to start bar fights!) this site.. well... takes a stab at trying to explain the creationism idea (for fun and profit!). take a moment, poke around and tell me what you think about it. I'm still going thru the FAQ's (and living in Kansas.. things like this really scare me)

lookout123 · 02-12-2005, 01:33 PM

you forgot to post the link, i think.

cowhead · 02-12-2005, 02:35 PM

heh.. yeah that might help huh? sorry long night last night...

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

xoxoxoBruce · 02-12-2005, 08:40 PM

I'll guarantee you one thing.
Whatever I chose to believe is the truth, will satisfy me.
But it won't change anything...not a damn thing.

cowhead · 02-13-2005, 12:28 AM

no sir, the thing I find.. oh.. odd perhaps, is that does opening a museum to something lend it more 'validity' points? I think It does, and as I freaquent the natural history museum here (WOO! we have custers horse!) there are some larger questions that I have. (and the thing is.. I don't care what a person believes, hey, good for you pal! (not you bruce) it makes for thought provoking conversation (sometimes) and I enjoy that.

and therein lies another problem.. the fact that it doesn't matter.. it does, No! what I believe won't change anyones belief system (although I have done that in the past, it was an accident). I have to have some sort of faith in things.. otherwise.. well.. where's my 10 gauge?

Troubleshooter · 02-13-2005, 12:08 PM

Just ask OC, that's her favorite answer pool.

OnyxCougar · 02-13-2005, 01:13 PM

Ask what?

Troubleshooter · 02-13-2005, 02:54 PM

About answers in genesis.

OnyxCougar · 02-13-2005, 02:56 PM

I know that, I meant ask what about them?

In addition, the fact that they are building a museum that supports that creationist viewpoint doesn't make it "legit". The theory is legit and stands on its own or fails on its merits.

AiG is building the museum for the same reason all other museums were built. Why does the fact that it's built by creationists make it some big story?

warch · 02-14-2005, 04:22 PM

Museum, my ass. Its a theme park church. Kentucky is a good place for it.
And it is not built for the same reasons other museums were built. Its built to prostelitize one religious view. Its built for the same reasons other churches were built. Its just a different form of passion play.

Museums are, traditionally in America, places that welcome intellectual discourse as core mission. They are forums for discussion and research. And the content can and should change.

mrnoodle · 02-14-2005, 05:22 PM

Museums are warehouses of stuff that no one knows what else to do with. Groups of schoolkids visit them to give the bus driver something to do in the middle of the day.
The reason that the content changes is because the old shit got boring.

Some of them have buttons that you can push. That's neat.

How dare someone co-opt this noble, ancient tradition for their own PROSELYTIZING.

kidding. sheesh.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-14-2005, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warch

Museums are, traditionally in America, places that welcome intellectual discourse as core mission. They are forums for discussion and research. And the content can and should change.

Huh? I thought the were primarily to teach we unwashed all the neat stuff you guys on the in, know....or at least wish to share.
Secondarily as a place to keep stuff the literates might to want to write about. It would be a royal pain to have some grad student, with a paper due in the morning, waking me up to check some DoDad. I put it in the museum...go away. :hafucking

warch · 02-15-2005, 09:54 AM

Geez, I guess I had some good fieldtrips! I like those other bastions of literacy, libraries, too. And I can't even spell!

OnyxCougar · 02-15-2005, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warch

Museums are, traditionally in America, places that welcome intellectual discourse as core mission. They are forums for discussion and research. And the content can and should change.

You're saying that Christians don't have intellectual discourse? That they don't discuss or research anything? That exhibits can't be changed periodically simply because it's a Christian museum?

That's insulting.

warch · 02-15-2005, 04:53 PM

Sorry to insult you, that was not my intent. I'm saying that an exhibition of "How Noah fed the animals" and "playing with the T-Rex" as displayed in their PR slide show are there to tell one story only. This biblical interpretation is their end. I welcome real, thoughtful discourse, Christian or otherwise. I'm suspect of fundamentalist script, particularly with plastic dinosaurs. If anyone is being insulting and I would add, threatening, to Christianity, its these fundamentalist indoctrinators .

02-12-2005, 01:22 PM	#1
cowhead halve your cake and eat it too. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Georgia.. by way of Lawrence Kansas Posts: 1,359	well! now that it has a museum I guess that makes it legit. whilst mindlessly surfing along the 'ol information super highway.. I stumbed across this. now, I'm not a believer in the whole corporate religion thing and I find the debate between evolution and creationism to be a waste of time (although an entertaining one.. and great to start bar fights!) this site.. well... takes a stab at trying to explain the creationism idea (for fun and profit!). take a moment, poke around and tell me what you think about it. I'm still going thru the FAQ's (and living in Kansas.. things like this really scare me) __________________ no my child.. this is not my desire..I'm digging for fire.

02-12-2005, 01:33 PM	#2
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02-12-2005, 02:35 PM	#3
cowhead halve your cake and eat it too. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Georgia.. by way of Lawrence Kansas Posts: 1,359	heh.. yeah that might help huh? sorry long night last night... http://www.answersingenesis.org/ __________________ no my child.. this is not my desire..I'm digging for fire.

02-12-2005, 08:40 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I'll guarantee you one thing. Whatever I chose to believe is the truth, will satisfy me. But it won't change anything...not a damn thing. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-13-2005, 12:28 AM	#5
cowhead halve your cake and eat it too. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Georgia.. by way of Lawrence Kansas Posts: 1,359	no sir, the thing I find.. oh.. odd perhaps, is that does opening a museum to something lend it more 'validity' points? I think It does, and as I freaquent the natural history museum here (WOO! we have custers horse!) there are some larger questions that I have. (and the thing is.. I don't care what a person believes, hey, good for you pal! (not you bruce) it makes for thought provoking conversation (sometimes) and I enjoy that. and therein lies another problem.. the fact that it doesn't matter.. it does, No! what I believe won't change anyones belief system (although I have done that in the past, it was an accident). I have to have some sort of faith in things.. otherwise.. well.. where's my 10 gauge? __________________ no my child.. this is not my desire..I'm digging for fire. Last edited by cowhead; 02-13-2005 at 12:33 AM. Reason: uh I forgot something

02-13-2005, 12:08 PM	#6
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Just ask OC, that's her favorite answer pool. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

02-13-2005, 01:13 PM	#7
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	Ask what? __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

02-13-2005, 02:54 PM	#8
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	About answers in genesis. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

02-13-2005, 02:56 PM	#9
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	I know that, I meant ask what about them? In addition, the fact that they are building a museum that supports that creationist viewpoint doesn't make it "legit". The theory is legit and stands on its own or fails on its merits. AiG is building the museum for the same reason all other museums were built. Why does the fact that it's built by creationists make it some big story? __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt Last edited by OnyxCougar; 02-13-2005 at 02:59 PM.

02-14-2005, 04:22 PM	#10
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Museum, my ass. Its a theme park church. Kentucky is a good place for it. And it is not built for the same reasons other museums were built. Its built to prostelitize one religious view. Its built for the same reasons other churches were built. Its just a different form of passion play. Museums are, traditionally in America, places that welcome intellectual discourse as core mission. They are forums for discussion and research. And the content can and should change. Last edited by warch; 02-14-2005 at 04:29 PM.

02-14-2005, 05:22 PM	#11
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	Museums are warehouses of stuff that no one knows what else to do with. Groups of schoolkids visit them to give the bus driver something to do in the middle of the day. The reason that the content changes is because the old shit got boring. Some of them have buttons that you can push. That's neat. How dare someone co-opt this noble, ancient tradition for their own PROSELYTIZING. kidding. sheesh. __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

02-15-2005, 09:54 AM	#13
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Geez, I guess I had some good fieldtrips! I like those other bastions of literacy, libraries, too. And I can't even spell! Last edited by warch; 02-15-2005 at 09:57 AM.

02-15-2005, 04:53 PM	#15
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Sorry to insult you, that was not my intent. I'm saying that an exhibition of "How Noah fed the animals" and "playing with the T-Rex" as displayed in their PR slide show are there to tell one story only. This biblical interpretation is their end. I welcome real, thoughtful discourse, Christian or otherwise. I'm suspect of fundamentalist script, particularly with plastic dinosaurs. If anyone is being insulting and I would add, threatening, to Christianity, its these fundamentalist indoctrinators .

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