Woman killed for her unborn baby

Sun_Sparkz · 12-19-2004, 06:52 PM

I was driving to work this morning and heard on the radio a woman was killed in the U.S and her unborn baby was removed from her womb?

Apparently the lady who stole the baby then parades the infant as her own!

its like a horror movie. That poor family, i wonder if they will get their baby back. Imagine when the baby is an adult, or adolescent, and finding out what happened to her mother. I just can't even begin to comprehend the weird sorrow that wil ensue from this sick news.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-19-2004, 08:51 PM

Even more bizarre is how often this happens.

Troubleshooter · 12-19-2004, 08:57 PM

Funny how Skidmore gets back in the news.

footfootfoot · 12-19-2004, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Funny how Skidmore gets back in the news.

huh?

Clodfobble · 12-19-2004, 09:15 PM

Yes, the father did get the baby back--they caught the lady just a day or two after the murder/kidnapping.

The lady who committed the crime is nuts. Apparently she had a miscarriage awhile back, and couldn't deal with that. When she killed the woman and cut the fetus out, she called her husband at work and said something to the effect of, "Guess what, honey? I was out shopping, and all of a sudden I went into labor and had a baby after all!"

Troubleshooter · 12-19-2004, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

huh?

Murder in Broad Daylight

Elspode · 12-19-2004, 10:20 PM

This is the biggest news story around these parts right now. Godawful psychotic murdering bitch hooks up with pregnant woman via an Internet dog breeder's ad, goes to her home on the pretense of purchasing a puppy, comes up behind mother and strangles her, then cuts the 8 month old fetus from dead mother's womb and returns to her home town, claiming the baby as her own. She even told her husband that she had the baby unexpectedly the day before while she was alone in Topeka.

Some people become so horribly broken, that there is no way they can ever be fixed. I think this one falls into that category.

Sun_Sparkz · 12-19-2004, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Even more bizarre is how often this happens.

Really?
This is the first i've ever heard of anything like this. I heard that officials are even considering the death penalty!! how could they NOT give her the death penalty?

glatt · 12-20-2004, 07:56 AM

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I heard that officials are even considering the death penalty!! how could they NOT give her the death penalty?

I think, just maybe, that she's insane, and can't tell right from wrong. She should be institutionalized, not put to death.

Clodfobble · 12-20-2004, 08:01 AM

I think, just maybe, that she's insane, and can't tell right from wrong. She should be institutionalized, not put to death.

I doubt that defense will fly in court--she took too many steps to conceal what she did for her to claim she didn't know it was wrong.

glatt · 12-20-2004, 08:06 AM

I doubt it will fly in court either. But that's more a comment of the politics of the times than a comment on her mental condition.

lookout123 · 12-20-2004, 11:08 AM

how does being out of one's gourd make this any less heinous? insane or not, she should be put to death. the insanity defense to avoid the death penalty is such BS. if a conviction for a crime would result in the death penalty for someone who didn't use the insanity defense, why should a nutjob get off any easier? the crime is the same, why shouldn't the penalty be the same?

glatt · 12-20-2004, 11:31 AM

Because the crime is not the same.

Do you blame a person for having cancer? Do you blame a person for having heart disease? Why do you blame a person for another illness, when a symptom of that illness happens to be against the law?

It's against the law to take a dump on the sidewalk, but if you have dysentary and involuntarily crap your pants, resulting in some shit dribbling down your pant leg and onto the sidewalk, I would submit that you are far less guilty of shitting on the sidewalk than someone who does it on purpose. Even though you both did it. Rather than going to jail, I think such a person should get medical attention.

Yes, the violently insane are a danger to society. Lock them up in a mental hospital. Treat them. If they recover fully, let them out. What good does putting them to death do?

I don't know the details of this killing, so I can't really comment on her, but I think that most people would agree that cutting a pregnant woman open and stealing her child is not an example of a sane human being.

Undertoad · 12-20-2004, 12:22 PM

One news anchor said the woman's fetus was cut out of her stomach.

Good going; this way, any young children who don't know where babies really come from won't be traumatized by the story.

cowhead · 12-20-2004, 01:53 PM

yeah..this is one of the most fucked up things to come out of the midwest in a while.. makes me really leary of small towns... yeesh

12-19-2004, 06:52 PM	#1
Sun_Sparkz Has Body Temperature Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I come from a land downunder Posts: 1,105	Woman killed for her unborn baby I was driving to work this morning and heard on the radio a woman was killed in the U.S and her unborn baby was removed from her womb? Apparently the lady who stole the baby then parades the infant as her own! its like a horror movie. That poor family, i wonder if they will get their baby back. Imagine when the baby is an adult, or adolescent, and finding out what happened to her mother. I just can't even begin to comprehend the weird sorrow that wil ensue from this sick news. __________________ We'll never be as young as we are right now

12-19-2004, 08:51 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Even more bizarre is how often this happens. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-19-2004, 08:57 PM	#3
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Funny how Skidmore gets back in the news. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

12-19-2004, 10:20 PM	#7
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	This is the biggest news story around these parts right now. Godawful psychotic murdering bitch hooks up with pregnant woman via an Internet dog breeder's ad, goes to her home on the pretense of purchasing a puppy, comes up behind mother and strangles her, then cuts the 8 month old fetus from dead mother's womb and returns to her home town, claiming the baby as her own. She even told her husband that she had the baby unexpectedly the day before while she was alone in Topeka. Some people become so horribly broken, that there is no way they can ever be fixed. I think this one falls into that category. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

12-20-2004, 11:08 AM	#12
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	how does being out of one's gourd make this any less heinous? insane or not, she should be put to death. the insanity defense to avoid the death penalty is such BS. if a conviction for a crime would result in the death penalty for someone who didn't use the insanity defense, why should a nutjob get off any easier? the crime is the same, why shouldn't the penalty be the same? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

12-19-2004, 09:15 PM	#5
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Yes, the father did get the baby back--they caught the lady just a day or two after the murder/kidnapping. The lady who committed the crime is nuts. Apparently she had a miscarriage awhile back, and couldn't deal with that. When she killed the woman and cut the fetus out, she called her husband at work and said something to the effect of, "Guess what, honey? I was out shopping, and all of a sudden I went into labor and had a baby after all!"

12-20-2004, 08:01 AM	#10
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I think, just maybe, that she's insane, and can't tell right from wrong. She should be institutionalized, not put to death. I doubt that defense will fly in court--she took too many steps to conceal what she did for her to claim she didn't know it was wrong.

12-20-2004, 08:06 AM	#11
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I doubt it will fly in court either. But that's more a comment of the politics of the times than a comment on her mental condition.

12-20-2004, 11:31 AM	#13
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Because the crime is not the same. Do you blame a person for having cancer? Do you blame a person for having heart disease? Why do you blame a person for another illness, when a symptom of that illness happens to be against the law? It's against the law to take a dump on the sidewalk, but if you have dysentary and involuntarily crap your pants, resulting in some shit dribbling down your pant leg and onto the sidewalk, I would submit that you are far less guilty of shitting on the sidewalk than someone who does it on purpose. Even though you both did it. Rather than going to jail, I think such a person should get medical attention. Yes, the violently insane are a danger to society. Lock them up in a mental hospital. Treat them. If they recover fully, let them out. What good does putting them to death do? I don't know the details of this killing, so I can't really comment on her, but I think that most people would agree that cutting a pregnant woman open and stealing her child is not an example of a sane human being.

12-20-2004, 12:22 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	One news anchor said the woman's fetus was cut out of her stomach. Good going; this way, any young children who don't know where babies really come from won't be traumatized by the story.

12-20-2004, 01:53 PM	#15
cowhead halve your cake and eat it too. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Georgia.. by way of Lawrence Kansas Posts: 1,359	yeah..this is one of the most fucked up things to come out of the midwest in a while.. makes me really leary of small towns... yeesh __________________ no my child.. this is not my desire..I'm digging for fire.

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