Should IQ be a requirement?

Rexmons · 08-16-2007, 01:25 PM

jester · 08-16-2007, 01:30 PM

Depends on the job - some things are "no" brainers.

Cicero · 08-16-2007, 01:32 PM

I thought IQ exists regardless of requirements?

oooh sorry. The question and poll didn't pop up the first time. Weird.

Perry Winkle · 08-16-2007, 01:37 PM

No. IQ doesn't determine success. Sure, there is a point where a person's IQ is so low that they can't possibly handle a job well. As long as you're at least average, I think you should be allowed to achieve whatever you can. (So says the man with a significantly above average IQ.)

Cloud · 08-16-2007, 01:49 PM

Although intelligence is needed for many jobs, I don't think an IQ score should be a component of any hiring decision. So, no.

wolf · 08-16-2007, 01:51 PM

Absolutely. I don't want a dumb doctor.

SteveDallas · 08-16-2007, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

I don't want a dumb doctor.

Well, yeah. But if you have a dumb doctor, that means a dumb person was able to get through medical school and get a medical license. Throwing in an IQ test won't keep that from happening.

Perry Winkle · 08-16-2007, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

Absolutely. I don't want a dumb doctor.

You go to medical school to become a doctor. The course of study should be (more than) difficult enough to weed out anyone who's not bright enough.

The problem is there are people who lie, cheat, steal, or coast through to becoming a doctor. Regardless of IQ, you don't want this person to be your doctor.

Shawnee123 · 08-16-2007, 01:54 PM

And it should be a requirement for, say, President or something.

Rexmons · 08-16-2007, 01:59 PM

i personally think it should be a requirment for some jobs. i think perry winkle's heart is in the right place when he said if you're at least born average you should be able to do whatever you want, however there are TONS of jobs that mandate certain physical requirments, such as professional athletes, fire fighters, ninjas...

Perry Winkle · 08-16-2007, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexmons

i personally think it should be a requirment for some jobs. i think perry winkle's heart is in the right place when he said if you're at least born average you should be able to do whatever you want, however there are TONS of jobs that mandate certain physical requirments, such as professional athletes, fire fighters, ninjas...

My heart doesn't enter into it. Physical requirements are easy to measure: speed, strength, whatever. However, IQ is a good indicator of potential, but it is not a hard and fast measure of intelligence or aptitude for a specific task.

Discriminating based on a task's physical requirements makes sense (if you also take into account other qualifications also). Using IQ to determine whether someone can complete a task is nonsense.

Ideally, you discriminate based on past accomplishments (education, work experience, references, whatever) and physical ability to do the work. You can't use one in exclusion of the other and make a good decision.

If someone with average IQ has shown they can do the job as well as I can, let them do it.

(I hope that made sense. I usually don't make serious posts...)

Cicero · 08-16-2007, 02:01 PM

Specific jobs need people with specific skill sets and the IQ to fulfill what the job demands. If it is your job to be brilliant- then yea.
It doesn't even take an IQ test to determine that either.

Rexmons · 08-16-2007, 02:01 PM

shawnee thats actually what i had in mind when i thought this question up. :p

LabRat · 08-16-2007, 02:16 PM

'High IQ" does not equal wisdom. Just means you are good at taking IQ tests.

I have worked with many people who probably score higher than me on a typical IQ test, but are dumb as posts about more things than not.

I got a 31 (perfect in the science reasoning section) on the ACT (eons ago) but have a hell of a time spelling. Chemistry kicks my ass. English? Dumb as a box of rocks. *shrug*

We all are experts at something, some of us more somethings than others. Some of us, at things that can't be 'measured' on a currently available scale.

That's what's cool about the cellar. A whole bunch of intellegent people who are experts in a whole lotta different areas.

freshnesschronic · 08-16-2007, 02:17 PM

It's already been said but I mean c'mon, a designated IQ test for a job? Getting the job is already an indirect way of expressing your intellectual quotient, why discriminate so openly.

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08-16-2007, 01:30 PM	#2
jester why so serious Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,712	Depends on the job - some things are "no" brainers.

08-16-2007, 01:37 PM	#4
Perry Winkle Esnohplad Semaj Ton Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 2,259	No. IQ doesn't determine success. Sure, there is a point where a person's IQ is so low that they can't possibly handle a job well. As long as you're at least average, I think you should be allowed to achieve whatever you can. (So says the man with a significantly above average IQ.)

08-16-2007, 01:54 PM	#9
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	And it should be a requirement for, say, President or something. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-16-2007, 01:59 PM	#10
Rexmons - Kavkaz United - Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 613	i personally think it should be a requirment for some jobs. i think perry winkle's heart is in the right place when he said if you're at least born average you should be able to do whatever you want, however there are TONS of jobs that mandate certain physical requirments, such as professional athletes, fire fighters, ninjas... __________________ "Life's a bitch but God forbid the bitch divorce me..."

08-16-2007, 02:01 PM	#12
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	Specific jobs need people with specific skill sets and the IQ to fulfill what the job demands. If it is your job to be brilliant- then yea. It doesn't even take an IQ test to determine that either. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

08-16-2007, 02:16 PM	#14
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	'High IQ" does not equal wisdom. Just means you are good at taking IQ tests. I have worked with many people who probably score higher than me on a typical IQ test, but are dumb as posts about more things than not. I got a 31 (perfect in the science reasoning section) on the ACT (eons ago) but have a hell of a time spelling. Chemistry kicks my ass. English? Dumb as a box of rocks. shrug We all are experts at something, some of us more somethings than others. Some of us, at things that can't be 'measured' on a currently available scale. That's what's cool about the cellar. A whole bunch of intellegent people who are experts in a whole lotta different areas. __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within.

08-16-2007, 02:17 PM	#15
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	It's already been said but I mean c'mon, a designated IQ test for a job? Getting the job is already an indirect way of expressing your intellectual quotient, why discriminate so openly.

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