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Old 06-29-2020, 04:11 PM   #1
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Searching for the truth, that is facts that confirm my gut feeling, is hard.
Easier to just go with what facebook and the guys at the bar tell me.

Trump has stumbled a couple times this year. Pointing it out is acceptable but this mocking/jeering that's going on right now will make his supporters double down rather than think.
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They're going hard on Bacefook right now. I'm not doing well with conversation.

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Accusations of liberal bias in social media have reached a new level as President Donald Trump started another kind of Twitter war last week — one with the social media platform itself. In response to a fact-check advisory that the company posted on one of his tweets on Tuesday, Trump responded, “Social Media Platforms totally silence conservative voices. We will strongly regulate, or close them down.” The White House then issued an executive order Thursday attempting to punish social media companies for political bias.

The result is the emergence of a dangerous digital activism gap, a gap that conservative movements understand and have increasingly used to their advantage.

Yet, Trump and his backers are wrong that social media shuts out those on the right. In fact, it's the opposite: Use of these platforms heavily favors conservatives.

This was the clear lesson that emerged from my research on thousands of social media posts and interviews with digital activists across the political spectrum. Social media increases power disparities due to social class and organizational resources. So, rather than favoring progressive activists, as the media spotlight on hashtag movements like #MeToo or #BlackLivesMatter can suggest, the underlying dynamics of these societal differences enable conservative messages and voices to gain a large advantage.
My outrage at his abuse of the language continues to be matched by my exhaustion from looking for and failing to find the reality of his hurts and the strain of trying to encompass his hypocrisy of accusing others of the wrongs he himself commits. It has not diminished. The doublespeak from Trump continues full force.
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Old 07-23-2020, 12:15 AM   #2
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The “free speech debate” isn’t really about free speech

The “free speech debate” isn’t really about free speech
The debate over “cancel culture” is about something real. But it’s not about free speech.


Please give this article about twenty minutes of your focused attention. It's an excellent article. Here are my first thoughts about it:

1 -- reality is just a story we tell to each other.
2 -- not every thing is knowable from first hand empirical evidence.
3 -- we find people we trust, to some degree, for some reason, and give them credence.


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What’s happening now seems novel because we are currently seeing a wave of social justice activism that seeks to redefine how we understand appropriate debate over these topics, sometimes even pushing to consign to the margins views that may have seemed tolerable in the past. These advocates can and have overreached, and should be criticized when they do. But on the whole, their work is aimed not at restricting freedom but at expanding it — making historically marginalized voices feel comfortable enough in the public square to be their authentic selves, to exist honestly and speak their own truths.
then our dialog disintegrates into cancel culturing each other's sources. naw, just dismissing the argument of the other by dismissing the source. we very often can't agree on first principles. on definitions. on what story is to be told. Sad.


I like this bit:

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It helps to think of this debate as taking place on a spectrum. Social justice advocates think the bands of acceptable opinion and arguments shouldn’t be narrowed, precisely, but rather pushed to the left — shifted to include formerly excluded voices from oppressed communities and to sideline voices that seek to continue their exclusion. Their critics think the traditional bands of debate are, broadly speaking, correct, and that we’d all be worse off if the social justice advocates succeed in moving speech norms in their direction.

Please read and respond, I'd love to know how you think and feel about this issue.
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Old 07-23-2020, 05:51 AM   #3
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Interesting quotes, I'll read it after work.
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Old 10-15-2020, 10:05 AM   #4
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Twitter and Facebook censor NY Post story
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Old 10-15-2020, 09:32 PM   #5
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Same source also got emails from Saddam admitting he had WMDs.

Someone claims to have emails that say what your campaign wants them to say. Apparently Russian hackers have been successful again. Twitter and Facebook would also have to censor that 'equally credible' source.

They censored because Trump's private attorney, Rudy Giuliani made some subjective (unsubstantiated) claim. Giuliani has long been an incredulous source.
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Old 10-15-2020, 10:13 AM   #6
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Mirriam-Webster updates dictionary definition in order to pwn the right

not strictly social media censorship but it's such a wild 1984ish item
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:17 PM   #7
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Jesus.

I suppose they can't help being offended by everything either. Poor flakes.
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Old 10-15-2020, 01:10 PM   #8
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Wull that's the thing, nobody is actually offended. The woke team controls power by controlling language.

My Twitter feed showed "The Advocate", historically the nation's leading gay culture news source, using "sexual preference" in articles three weeks ago.
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Old 10-19-2020, 01:40 PM   #9
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Twitter Deletes Tweet From Top Trump Coronavirus Adviser Undermining Mask Use

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Twitter decided to outright delete a tweet from one of President Donald Trump’s top coronavirus advisers, Scott Atlas, that alleged widespread use of masks was not effective to slow the spread of COVID-19. As of Sunday, Twitter had removed the tweet and replaced it with a note that reads “This Tweet is no longer available.” A spokesman for Twitter confirmed that the tweet “was in violation of our COVID-19 Misleading Information Policy” that “prohibits sharing false or misleading content related to COVID-19 which could lead to harm.”
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Old 10-19-2020, 02:24 PM   #10
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Old 10-20-2020, 08:48 PM   #11
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I don't understand they last bit
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Old 10-20-2020, 09:00 PM   #12
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A CDC review in May found that mask usage led to no significant reduction in influenza transmission.

Here is the studies review

From the Abstract "Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza."

UT's note, a more recent COVID-specific study found masks very useful.
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Old 11-25-2020, 12:58 PM   #13
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"... there was nobody left to speak for me." Alt-left shocked to find silicon valley censorship doesn't just apply to alt-right, comes for them too as they are banned from Twitter and Reddit:

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/meet-t...ed-andre-damon
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