12/9/2004: Evicted hawks

Undertoad · 12-09-2004, 12:23 PM

Landing at the nest is Lola, and standing by is Pale Male. They are hawks. They watch over three of the 25 chicks they raised over a period of nine years.

They lived on the ledge of a Fifth Avenue building near Central Park. "Lived" is past tense, as yesterday the building's management decided that the nest should be removed as a "safety precaution". They waited until there were no chicks and a kind of inactive pair of birds, and when the birds were away they took the nest down.

And here Pale Male went to such trouble to build it, retrieving sticks from the park... and enriching the lives of everyone who saw the birds. Presently they have a very unhappy pair of hawks, milling about complaining, and wondering whether they should build nearby or just move out of the city like all the other middle-aged parents. Can the burbs provide enough to interest your basic hawk? Maybe Hoboken or the Island would be a compromise.

And they also have humans milling about complaining, wondering why the building had to do this.

Pale Male: what a beautiful bird.

The hawks' home page - palemale.com

full story

garnet · 12-09-2004, 12:38 PM

Beautiful animals. I love this guy's Web site--these birds definitely had a loyal following! How sad.

smoothmoniker · 12-09-2004, 12:52 PM

lol - when I saw the thread title, I thought you were talking about the cabinet posts switching around.

garnet · 12-09-2004, 01:08 PM

FYI, if anyone else is pissed about this, here the address and stuff of the management company that removed the nest:

Hall F. Willkie, President
Brown Harris Stevens, LLC
655 Madison Ave., 3rd Fl.
New York, NY 10021
212-906-9203
212-906-9288 (fax)

wolf · 12-09-2004, 01:11 PM

I had thought that one would face severe federal penalties for disturbing the nest of a raptor, but I guess not ...

" But there was not much parks authorities or environmentalists could do: Unless a nest contains hatching eggs or small chicks, it is not illegal to remove it from private property."

Cyber Wolf · 12-09-2004, 04:35 PM

I hope Lola and Pale Male just rebuild in the face of Human Safety Policy. They likely wouldn't have had a nest there in the first place if they still had sufficient habitat to nest in.

Have they tried to capture and relocate those two or will the birds just not have it?

Wormfood · 12-10-2004, 04:51 AM

<...nest should be removed as a "safety precaution".>

My God, It's dangerous to stroll in the forest now.
You could be hit by a ... stick.

I really dont think that nest weights to much for that
construction anyway, or are they scared of Pale Male?

Nutbar · 12-10-2004, 10:48 AM

I'd love to have a hawk's nest in front of my building when the probable alternative is rats.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-10-2004, 08:52 PM

The management must be MBAs.

capnhowdy · 12-11-2004, 06:15 PM

according to CBS News, the owners of 927 5th Ave. have decided to allow Pale Male & his mate to rebuild, after a major protest from folks who feel like yours truly. Let's just hope the hawks aren't as pissed as I am and decide to relocate. I wish them luck in finding a home where some asshole humanoid won't have a "problem" with it.
I think they should force all the crackheads to move and leave the rodent controllers alone, for Chrissake..............
There are some really BORED people living on this planet.

Griff · 12-11-2004, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

The management must be MBAs.

90% of problems are traceable directly to top management.

York · 12-12-2004, 02:44 AM

Im happy to read that peoples opinions do matter some times....A thread...hahaha Yeah, the hawk can mistake u for a mouse or something and snatch you from the ground! It isnt illegal to take it when no-one or nothing is in the nest? So the bird s gotta be in it all the time? And they had 30 chicks? Well , thats how they spend their time upthere....

I would be really pissed too if i got in my street, but found my house missing ....

xoxoxoBruce · 12-12-2004, 04:18 PM

York, have you been drinking?

lookout123 · 12-15-2004, 11:30 AM

Birds return home to roost? well, we can only hope. it looks like paula zahn and mary tyler moore both live in the building and are on opposite sides of the issue. who woulda thunk - a pretend journalist vs. a... oh nevermind.

12-09-2004, 12:23 PM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	12/9/2004: Evicted hawks Landing at the nest is Lola, and standing by is Pale Male. They are hawks. They watch over three of the 25 chicks they raised over a period of nine years. They lived on the ledge of a Fifth Avenue building near Central Park. "Lived" is past tense, as yesterday the building's management decided that the nest should be removed as a "safety precaution". They waited until there were no chicks and a kind of inactive pair of birds, and when the birds were away they took the nest down. And here Pale Male went to such trouble to build it, retrieving sticks from the park... and enriching the lives of everyone who saw the birds. Presently they have a very unhappy pair of hawks, milling about complaining, and wondering whether they should build nearby or just move out of the city like all the other middle-aged parents. Can the burbs provide enough to interest your basic hawk? Maybe Hoboken or the Island would be a compromise. And they also have humans milling about complaining, wondering why the building had to do this. Pale Male: what a beautiful bird. The hawks' home page - palemale.com full story

12-09-2004, 12:52 PM	#3
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	lol - when I saw the thread title, I thought you were talking about the cabinet posts switching around. __________________ to live and die in LA

12-09-2004, 01:11 PM	#5
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I had thought that one would face severe federal penalties for disturbing the nest of a raptor, but I guess not ... " But there was not much parks authorities or environmentalists could do: Unless a nest contains hatching eggs or small chicks, it is not illegal to remove it from private property." __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-09-2004, 04:35 PM	#6
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	I hope Lola and Pale Male just rebuild in the face of Human Safety Policy. They likely wouldn't have had a nest there in the first place if they still had sufficient habitat to nest in. Have they tried to capture and relocate those two or will the birds just not have it? __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens

12-10-2004, 08:52 PM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	The management must be MBAs. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-09-2004, 12:38 PM	#2
garnet ... Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 657	Beautiful animals. I love this guy's Web site--these birds definitely had a loyal following! How sad.

12-09-2004, 01:08 PM	#4
garnet ... Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 657	FYI, if anyone else is pissed about this, here the address and stuff of the management company that removed the nest: Hall F. Willkie, President Brown Harris Stevens, LLC 655 Madison Ave., 3rd Fl. New York, NY 10021 212-906-9203 212-906-9288 (fax)

12-10-2004, 04:51 AM	#7
Wormfood Superior Inhabitant Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 73	<...nest should be removed as a "safety precaution".> My God, It's dangerous to stroll in the forest now. You could be hit by a ... stick. I really dont think that nest weights to much for that construction anyway, or are they scared of Pale Male?

12-10-2004, 10:48 AM	#8
Nutbar Recruit or Something Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4	I'd love to have a hawk's nest in front of my building when the probable alternative is rats.

12-11-2004, 06:15 PM	#10
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	UPDATE according to CBS News, the owners of 927 5th Ave. have decided to allow Pale Male & his mate to rebuild, after a major protest from folks who feel like yours truly. Let's just hope the hawks aren't as pissed as I am and decide to relocate. I wish them luck in finding a home where some asshole humanoid won't have a "problem" with it. I think they should force all the crackheads to move and leave the rodent controllers alone, for Chrissake.............. There are some really BORED people living on this planet. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

12-12-2004, 02:44 AM	#12
York Operations Operative Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tienen , Belgium Posts: 537	Im happy to read that peoples opinions do matter some times....A thread...hahaha Yeah, the hawk can mistake u for a mouse or something and snatch you from the ground! It isnt illegal to take it when no-one or nothing is in the nest? So the bird s gotta be in it all the time? And they had 30 chicks? Well , thats how they spend their time upthere.... I would be really pissed too if i got in my street, but found my house missing ....

12-12-2004, 04:18 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	York, have you been drinking? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-15-2004, 11:30 AM	#14
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Birds return home to roost? well, we can only hope. it looks like paula zahn and mary tyler moore both live in the building and are on opposite sides of the issue. who woulda thunk - a pretend journalist vs. a... oh nevermind. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

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