Bird Flu Risks Internationally?

EmbraceLife · 09-16-2005, 09:10 PM

Hi. I'm concerned about the bird flu and have been reading about it for several years now. Last night on network tv, there was a story warning the US that is was coming - Prime Time / ABC.

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Inv...=1130392&page=1

Here's some more interesting links about the bird flu:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,165009,00.html

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/cheal/message/279

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avia...s/en/index.html

Any thoughts on preparedness, risk, threat, etc??

lumberjim · 09-16-2005, 09:31 PM

thoughts? hype? propaganda to help the drug companies sell more vaccines? Wash my hands a lot? watch "The Stand" again?

sorry, I have short thoughts.

10-01-2005, 02:57 AM

we all are very concerned aboutthe same
i came to know aboutthe virus from the page (not allowed to post a link on your first post in case you're a spammer. -UT) and got a good amount of information
i am really scared and the thought of a pandemic scares me to death

xoxoxoBruce · 10-01-2005, 09:13 PM

Probably the best thing you can do, until this develops a little more, is get as healthy as you can..... good diet, plenty of sleep, exercise, etc. Can't hurt.

Beestie · 10-02-2005, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Probably the best thing you can do, until this develops a little more, is get as healthy as you can..... good diet, plenty of sleep, exercise, etc. Can't hurt.

And, if someone coughs in an elevator lobby, take the stairs.

slang · 10-03-2005, 02:00 AM

Fuck em.

I'll be going to Asia again this winter....eating their birds, walking their streets, mixing with the unwashed masses and not giving a thought to the flu.

I got my shots. What next? More shots? Then more? And more? Then more?

If I get into trouble, I have a hotline to God anyway.

So there!

Sundae · 10-03-2005, 05:29 AM

I work for the NHS (National Health Service - UK). We don't have any insider information, but it has been a common subject of conversation at work recently.

The general consensus here is that there are too many "ifs" for us to be concerned. In order for there to be a pandemic, the virus has to mutate and become capable of passing from human to human. Even SARS - which DID pass from human to human killed approx 800 people worldwide. If I went trawling for statistics I'm sure I could find a similar mortality rate for road traffic accidents within a reasonably small area.

I do appreciate that governments and health authorities need to be prepared. Models showing impact on critical care in the UK have shown that current resources would be overwhlemed. I think its important that the NHS is aware of that, and devise an action plan that could withstand a worst case scenario. However I think it is also important to remember that the model assumed an 8 week pandemic affecting 1 in 4 people in the UK.

My gut feeling is that this pandemic will not come to pass, at least not to the degree that is being anticipated (I wonder if I can get odds on that at the bookies?)

However I am intrigued by the idea of preparing a survival kit. Am tempted to get in water, tins and over the counter medicines just so I know that whether its flu, flood or zombie attack I can hole up and survive. At least I know I'll be okay if the power goes off - scented candles work just as well to read by, right?

wolf · 10-03-2005, 01:37 PM

For the zombies you need per person: 5 day supply of water, 5 day supply of food, and a shotgun.

The fireaxe isn't good enough for zombies. You have to really blast 'em.

Oh, and you want your shells loaded with rock salt.

Zombies really hate rock salt.

Elspode · 10-03-2005, 04:03 PM

Call me whacky, but *my* gut feeling tells me we are waaaayyyy overdue for just this sort of thing, and my family is laying in water, filter masks, ammo and canned goods right now.

I'm no paranoid, either...I just think that the time is ripe.

Undertoad · 10-03-2005, 04:18 PM

Be sure to get canned peaches. Mmm ripe peaches!

Trilby · 10-03-2005, 07:34 PM

If I'm gonna lay in for nuclear winter (or, zombies) I'm going to have chocolate PUDDING and fuck your peaches!

Plus, vodka, and cigarettes.

And, comics.

Griff · 10-03-2005, 07:51 PM

and Swiss Chocolate

slang · 10-03-2005, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode

.... ammo and canned goods right now.

Be Careful Ep, this is a **********very********** slippery slope. Next thing you know you're storing your own plasma and have your entire fortune converted to Kugerands.....

Your trigger finger twitches uncontrolably when ever the cable goes out for even a pico-second.....

And whenever you see a low flying helo, you're caluculating trajectory and the required lead for volley of successful shots from a high power semi-auto rifle.

Then Wolf stops by.... speaking very softly...... and puts this nice white jacket on you backwards...

ThreadHijackMan · 10-03-2005, 08:31 PM

Nice work jackass, bird flu to white coats.....

So the general consenus is that this is a longshot but then again....with our luck lately .....snot a bad idea to have a little insurance.

OK.

Elspode · 10-04-2005, 02:10 PM

Slang is psychic. I already do all of those things, except for the Krugeraands. I can't afford them, so I just buy more bullets. Now, if I can just find some Afrikaaner opportunists roaming around my neighborhood when the flu hits, I'll be set.

09-16-2005, 09:10 PM	#1
EmbraceLife Realize the Brevity of Life! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ohio USA Posts: 3	Bird Flu Risks Internationally? Hi. I'm concerned about the bird flu and have been reading about it for several years now. Last night on network tv, there was a story warning the US that is was coming - Prime Time / ABC. http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Inv...=1130392&page=1 Here's some more interesting links about the bird flu: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,165009,00.html http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/cheal/message/279 http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avia...s/en/index.html Any thoughts on preparedness, risk, threat, etc?? __________________ "Let the wife make the husband glad to come home, and let him make her sorry to see him leave. " Martin Luther "Be thou comforted, little dog, Thou too in Resurrection shall have a little golden tail" Martin Luther Last edited by EmbraceLife; 09-16-2005 at 09:23 PM.

09-16-2005, 09:31 PM	#2
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	thoughts? hype? propaganda to help the drug companies sell more vaccines? Wash my hands a lot? watch "The Stand" again? sorry, I have short thoughts. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

10-01-2005, 02:57 AM	#3
mltr79 Guest Posts: n/a	Concerned we all are very concerned aboutthe same i came to know aboutthe virus from the page (not allowed to post a link on your first post in case you're a spammer. -UT) and got a good amount of information i am really scared and the thought of a pandemic scares me to death

10-01-2005, 09:13 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Probably the best thing you can do, until this develops a little more, is get as healthy as you can..... good diet, plenty of sleep, exercise, etc. Can't hurt. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-03-2005, 01:37 PM	#8
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	For the zombies you need per person: 5 day supply of water, 5 day supply of food, and a shotgun. The fireaxe isn't good enough for zombies. You have to really blast 'em. Oh, and you want your shells loaded with rock salt. Zombies really hate rock salt. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

10-03-2005, 02:00 AM	#6
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	Fuck em. I'll be going to Asia again this winter....eating their birds, walking their streets, mixing with the unwashed masses and not giving a thought to the flu. I got my shots. What next? More shots? Then more? And more? Then more? If I get into trouble, I have a hotline to God anyway. So there!

10-03-2005, 05:29 AM	#7
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I work for the NHS (National Health Service - UK). We don't have any insider information, but it has been a common subject of conversation at work recently. The general consensus here is that there are too many "ifs" for us to be concerned. In order for there to be a pandemic, the virus has to mutate and become capable of passing from human to human. Even SARS - which DID pass from human to human killed approx 800 people worldwide. If I went trawling for statistics I'm sure I could find a similar mortality rate for road traffic accidents within a reasonably small area. I do appreciate that governments and health authorities need to be prepared. Models showing impact on critical care in the UK have shown that current resources would be overwhlemed. I think its important that the NHS is aware of that, and devise an action plan that could withstand a worst case scenario. However I think it is also important to remember that the model assumed an 8 week pandemic affecting 1 in 4 people in the UK. My gut feeling is that this pandemic will not come to pass, at least not to the degree that is being anticipated (I wonder if I can get odds on that at the bookies?) However I am intrigued by the idea of preparing a survival kit. Am tempted to get in water, tins and over the counter medicines just so I know that whether its flu, flood or zombie attack I can hole up and survive. At least I know I'll be okay if the power goes off - scented candles work just as well to read by, right?

10-03-2005, 04:03 PM	#9
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Call me whacky, but my gut feeling tells me we are waaaayyyy overdue for just this sort of thing, and my family is laying in water, filter masks, ammo and canned goods right now. I'm no paranoid, either...I just think that the time is ripe. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

10-03-2005, 04:18 PM	#10
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Be sure to get canned peaches. Mmm ripe peaches!

10-03-2005, 07:34 PM	#11
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	If I'm gonna lay in for nuclear winter (or, zombies) I'm going to have chocolate PUDDING and fuck your peaches! Plus, vodka, and cigarettes. And, comics. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

10-03-2005, 07:51 PM	#12
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	and Swiss Chocolate __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

10-03-2005, 08:31 PM	#14
ThreadHijackMan Changing the flow Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 51	Nice work jackass, bird flu to white coats..... So the general consenus is that this is a longshot but then again....with our luck lately .....snot a bad idea to have a little insurance. OK.

10-04-2005, 02:10 PM	#15
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Slang is psychic. I already do all of those things, except for the Krugeraands. I can't afford them, so I just buy more bullets. Now, if I can just find some Afrikaaner opportunists roaming around my neighborhood when the flu hits, I'll be set. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

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