The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Politics

Politics Where we learn not to think less of others who don't share our views

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-08-2018, 08:16 PM   #76
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
I do, you get to divide up my vote with everyone who votes, for the amount of power in a single vote.

So you get 1/130000000th of a vote more power. That's 0.0000000077 votes more power you get.

Use it wisely, or don't use it at all. Nobody will notice either way.

It's all rich irony as for years and years and years, people told me I was "throwing my vote away" by voting the way I did. So yeah, you throw it away for me. Do me a service.
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 08:32 PM   #77
sexobon
I love it when a plan comes together.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,793
You underestimate the propaganda value.

Fact: If you had voted in the last Presidential election, you would have voted for Trump.

There's nothing you can say or do to disprove that statement; because, you didn't vote. Let's give it some oomph;

Fact: Undertoad, who is seeking the truth, would have voted for Trump in the last election had he voted since Trump was truly the best choice.

Leave the driving to us.
sexobon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 08:40 PM   #78
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
Yes and if you were looking to rape a young child, you would have chosen a male.

There's nothing you can say or do to disprove that statement; because, you didn't rape a child.

yr mv
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 09:01 PM   #79
sexobon
I love it when a plan comes together.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,793
You equate voting for Trump to raping a child? Is that how you feel, like those who voted for Trump raped you.

If you vote in the next Presidential election, you will vote for Trump.

(Stockholm syndrome)

All like you are just waiting to come out of the woodwork to get true blue Trump reelected.
sexobon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2018, 06:56 AM   #80
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
Yes and if you rape a young child next year, you will rape a boy.

dude don't just reframe the analogy again once it is shown to be broken
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2018, 04:37 PM   #81
sexobon
I love it when a plan comes together.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,793
Why not

If Trump runs for reelection, you wouldn't vote for anyone else. That means something to people. OTOH, your retort is meaningless as it's not reality based.

You're an enabler; but, more importantly, you provide a rationale for others to become abstaining enablers so that power shifts by changing the level of entitlement by numbers.

Thank you for your un-contribution. Good day.
sexobon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2018, 04:55 PM   #82
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
Quote:
you provide a rationale for others to become abstaining enablers so that power shifts by changing the level of entitlement by numbers
So, the real danger is other people start to not vote because I have convinced them?

Jesus, I didn't know I had such power! Can I convince them to suck my dick instead? It takes less time and at least then I would get something for my amaaaaazing influence, which I was previously unaware of!

I would even put up a booth and a curtain if people want to suck me off. Can we make it happen the first Tuesday of November?
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2018, 05:01 PM   #83
sexobon
I love it when a plan comes together.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,793
Name:  I Said Good Day!.jpg
Views: 229
Size:  15.7 KB
sexobon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2018, 05:15 PM   #84
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
Our government officials are elected by the average American.
You know, someone who has a high-school education and $30,000 in earnings, of which 30% goes to taxes and 30% to housing and health-care costs, and are told repeatedly that people like them, the majority of the population, have no future in a knowledge economy.
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2018, 06:38 PM   #85
henry quirk
maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,162
Toad, I love ya, really, I do, BUT...

...you gotta lotta nerve, man.

You give me grief about my anarchic ways, but you can't even be bothered to participate in the operation of the 'representative government' you put so much stock in.

Understand: I don't care if you vote or not (voting is mostly Hobson's Choice). By my standards: you're fine.

By your own...

Last edited by henry quirk; 08-09-2018 at 08:32 PM.
henry quirk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2018, 09:14 PM   #86
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
Lots of ways to participate man. This is one of them!

Leave the vote to others who are more informed. That's a sensible civic approach, really --

I tellya what, I would vote on local. School board and township, that I'd vote on. Because you could probably even meet the people running, and the issues would be things you were aware of, and that actually mattered. And the vote would be meaningful, it would be less than a 0.000000077th impact.

But I'm not informed about any of that, and I'm a renter. Shrug
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2018, 09:53 PM   #87
Clodfobble
UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 20,012
Okay, but in the same way that we have a representative democracy because we can't all be informed on all the issues all the time, couldn't you theoretically have a representative voting advisor? Like one person or organization or whatever that you decide you trust, and just do whatever that person/organization tells you to do? Or would you say you inherently can't trust anyone who would pick from either of the two major parties?
Clodfobble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2018, 10:51 PM   #88
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
I did give a vote as a christmas present once.

It's easy to get proxy votes. Simply by standing outside the polling place, and politely asking everyone who enters to vote for your candidate, you can get a ton of votes. You can sway a precinct.

Just think of all the people who have been told it's their civic duty to vote, and do it, but who have no idea who the candidates are.
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2018, 06:34 AM   #89
Griff
still says videotape
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,813
So you are participating in representative democracy just not voting.
__________________
If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Griff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2018, 06:37 AM   #90
sexobon
I love it when a plan comes together.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,793
Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
… But I'm not informed about any of that, and I'm a renter. Shrug
You're just a renter of life. Perhaps you don't have much to say that's worth listening to about anything.
sexobon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:59 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.