currently, near Houston...

Pamela · 04-09-2014, 02:37 PM

A good friend of mine has been suspended, pending a decision by the school board, who apparently is expected to fire her.

http://www.12newsnow.com/story/25197...board-decision

I have known her for years and she is a real sweetie who would never corrupt children. She is devastated by this.

Gravdigr · 04-09-2014, 02:50 PM

Considering these kids are, what 10-12 yrs old, I don't see how it couldn't be a distraction at the least.

We have male teachers. We have female teachers. Ability is not at issue. But, remembering how a 10-12 yo mind works, it would almost have to interrupt the learning process to some degree.

I can't understand how anyone ever thought this would be a good idea.

What don't kill ya makes ya stronger...hope she comes out the better for it.

DanaC · 04-09-2014, 03:23 PM

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it would almost have to interrupt the learning process to some degree.

For a few minutes. Until it's explained.

Here's the crux:

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"If it does affect my child and his ability to learn or if it causes questions that I don't feel are appropriate then undoubtedly there's an issue with having somebody transgender, transsexual or transvestite, to be teaching that age group," Beard said.

There's the problem right there. This has nothing to do with kids being confused and everything to do with parents being uncomfortable.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-09-2014, 03:37 PM

Of course it's about the parents, the kids have no say. The parent says they are concerned about how it will affect their kid. Right, wrong, or indifferent, I have no reason not to believe them and neither do you. How would they know how it would affect their kid when they themselves have no clue.

All they know is it ain't right that this shit be happening in Texas.

I can see a sudden transition in the middle of the school year confusing the kids, but this doesn't sound anything like that. I want to know how the parents found out?

monster · 04-09-2014, 06:57 PM

Everything and anything can be a distraction to kids that age. this is nothing to do with education. Which is sad, because it could be a great learning experience in acceptance and compassion and um what's that c-word with the big c said to be so popular in TX? Not cancer ....the other one.....

I wonder if a busty female teacher who had a double mastectomy (for whatever reason) would be considered to be a distraction? Or an Army vet with a disfigured face?

grrr

zippyt · 04-09-2014, 10:00 PM

thats a discrimination law suit waiting to happen ,
i hope your friend gets a FAT settlement

Griff · 04-10-2014, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyt

thats a discrimination law suit waiting to happen ,
i hope your friend gets a FAT settlement

this

footfootfoot · 04-10-2014, 08:21 AM

The best is at 1:08

"How am I supposed to explain this to my child?"

DanaC · 04-10-2014, 08:24 AM

Hahahaha

That was brilliant.

Pamela · 04-10-2014, 10:06 AM

I had a long talk with m friend LJ last night. It seems that her devastation was all in my head. She was remarkably chipper after a short chat. She was merely overwhelmed by the outpouring of support, even from strangers. She has gotten a lot of notes on her FB as well as email and even in person regarding this issue. A local TV station ran a poll that shoowed 86% support for her.

Dana nailed it perfectly. This looks like a tempest in a teapot started by a few unimportant bigots who are perpetually outraged at anything that contradicts their little world.

Gravdigr, the parent seems to be most worried about his son getting a crush on teacher

Bruce, she was hired recently, as she appeared in the pictures (which were lifted from her FB page without permission). Her surgical status is pre-op. I say thi because she doesn't make it a huge secret; but she doesn't wear it on a Tshirt either. She would never discuss the subject with the children or at the school. She loves children and would not try to poison their little minds. And, to put the subject to rest she is NOT there for any nefarious purposes, as has been implied by some (I'm looking at YOU, Breitbart.com!).

She was outed by a neighbor child whose parent cannot accept LJ as a person, only as a freak and who has instilled that mindset in their child, who blabbed to anyone who would listen about LJs status. Children will do scary things to gain their parents' approval.

Zippy, she has spoken to lawyers but is taking no action yet. She is wisely waiting to see how the school board will decide.

The Lumberton area is served by an ISD and is not subject to the city anti-discrimination, which protects gays and transsexuals from discrimination. State law offers no such protection. Bills amending the state laws have been defeated, even though an ISD is not beholden to the state, either.

EEOC rulings and recent court decisions have protected transgender peoples jobs. But ENDA continues to be defeated in the Congress.

I have heard that there is a Change.org petition out there but I was unable to find it. If anyone can share a lilnk to one, I would appreciate it.

Pamela

Clodfobble · 04-10-2014, 05:32 PM

Social change is a progression, and there always comes a time with any such issue when it's good for this type of thing to happen. It allows that 86% to speak up and declare their support, and only speeds the silencing of the conservationist minority. It's not enough to reach critical mass; you have to collectively know you've reached critical mass. I'm proud that we get to live in these times, on the lee side of the hill.

[sidenote]It amuses me that you are calling your friend "LJ" and this is happening in the "Lumberton" district.[/sidenote]

xoxoxoBruce · 04-10-2014, 08:17 PM

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Bruce, she was hired recently, as she appeared in the pictures (which were lifted from her FB page without permission).

When are people going to learn FB is a gun for shooting yourself in the foot.

footfootfoot · 04-11-2014, 07:43 AM

beg pardon?

DanaC · 04-11-2014, 07:58 AM

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Bruce, she was hired recently, as she appeared in the pictures (which were lifted from her FB page without permission).

They weren't made aware because of the Fb picture. The FB picture was just what was shown without her permission in the report.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-11-2014, 09:28 AM

Just one more example of FB coming back to bite your ass. What is the number, 20%, 30%, 50% of divorces involve FB? Stupid people.

04-09-2014, 02:37 PM	#1
Pamela Deplorable Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 767	currently, near Houston... A good friend of mine has been suspended, pending a decision by the school board, who apparently is expected to fire her. http://www.12newsnow.com/story/25197...board-decision I have known her for years and she is a real sweetie who would never corrupt children. She is devastated by this.

04-09-2014, 02:50 PM	#2
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Considering these kids are, what 10-12 yrs old, I don't see how it couldn't be a distraction at the least. We have male teachers. We have female teachers. Ability is not at issue. But, remembering how a 10-12 yo mind works, it would almost have to interrupt the learning process to some degree. I can't understand how anyone ever thought this would be a good idea. What don't kill ya makes ya stronger...hope she comes out the better for it. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

04-09-2014, 03:37 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Of course it's about the parents, the kids have no say. The parent says they are concerned about how it will affect their kid. Right, wrong, or indifferent, I have no reason not to believe them and neither do you. How would they know how it would affect their kid when they themselves have no clue. All they know is it ain't right that this shit be happening in Texas. I can see a sudden transition in the middle of the school year confusing the kids, but this doesn't sound anything like that. I want to know how the parents found out? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-09-2014, 06:57 PM	#5
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Everything and anything can be a distraction to kids that age. this is nothing to do with education. Which is sad, because it could be a great learning experience in acceptance and compassion and um what's that c-word with the big c said to be so popular in TX? Not cancer ....the other one..... I wonder if a busty female teacher who had a double mastectomy (for whatever reason) would be considered to be a distraction? Or an Army vet with a disfigured face? grrr __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

04-09-2014, 10:00 PM	#6
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	thats a discrimination law suit waiting to happen , i hope your friend gets a FAT settlement __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

04-10-2014, 08:21 AM	#8
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	The best is at 1:08 "How am I supposed to explain this to my child?" __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

04-10-2014, 10:06 AM	#10
Pamela Deplorable Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 767	I had a long talk with m friend LJ last night. It seems that her devastation was all in my head. She was remarkably chipper after a short chat. She was merely overwhelmed by the outpouring of support, even from strangers. She has gotten a lot of notes on her FB as well as email and even in person regarding this issue. A local TV station ran a poll that shoowed 86% support for her. Dana nailed it perfectly. This looks like a tempest in a teapot started by a few unimportant bigots who are perpetually outraged at anything that contradicts their little world. Gravdigr, the parent seems to be most worried about his son getting a crush on teacher Bruce, she was hired recently, as she appeared in the pictures (which were lifted from her FB page without permission). Her surgical status is pre-op. I say thi because she doesn't make it a huge secret; but she doesn't wear it on a Tshirt either. She would never discuss the subject with the children or at the school. She loves children and would not try to poison their little minds. And, to put the subject to rest she is NOT there for any nefarious purposes, as has been implied by some (I'm looking at YOU, Breitbart.com!). She was outed by a neighbor child whose parent cannot accept LJ as a person, only as a freak and who has instilled that mindset in their child, who blabbed to anyone who would listen about LJs status. Children will do scary things to gain their parents' approval. Zippy, she has spoken to lawyers but is taking no action yet. She is wisely waiting to see how the school board will decide. The Lumberton area is served by an ISD and is not subject to the city anti-discrimination, which protects gays and transsexuals from discrimination. State law offers no such protection. Bills amending the state laws have been defeated, even though an ISD is not beholden to the state, either. EEOC rulings and recent court decisions have protected transgender peoples jobs. But ENDA continues to be defeated in the Congress. I have heard that there is a Change.org petition out there but I was unable to find it. If anyone can share a lilnk to one, I would appreciate it. Pamela Last edited by Pamela; 04-10-2014 at 10:37 AM.

04-10-2014, 05:32 PM	#11
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Social change is a progression, and there always comes a time with any such issue when it's good for this type of thing to happen. It allows that 86% to speak up and declare their support, and only speeds the silencing of the conservationist minority. It's not enough to reach critical mass; you have to collectively know you've reached critical mass. I'm proud that we get to live in these times, on the lee side of the hill. [sidenote]It amuses me that you are calling your friend "LJ" and this is happening in the "Lumberton" district.[/sidenote] __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

04-11-2014, 07:43 AM	#13
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	beg pardon? __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

04-11-2014, 09:28 AM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Just one more example of FB coming back to bite your ass. What is the number, 20%, 30%, 50% of divorces involve FB? Stupid people. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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