cloned bi-products

Lorac · 12-29-2006, 10:59 PM

This incredible new product from cloned animals brings to mind a million possibilities. The media has alerted us that meat and milk and eggs from cloned animals is an idea we need to digest. I am scared in multi dementions. What effect will there be? Cheap produce? Strange species of SPAM? WHAT??? Your input? (as a spouse, I know that this will not take 5 posts to involve how to cook what.......)

zippyt · 12-29-2006, 11:24 PM

Hot DOGS ??
Chihuleshules with Hot souce ??
Whale Peni in penna ??
Spam in a can that opens it self for you " Don't worry about those sharp edges , OOPs I cut my self , ohhhh look I'm bleeding GRAVY !!!!! "
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Hoof Hearted · 12-30-2006, 09:48 AM

I don't see it happening anytime soon.
It currently costs $3k-$4k to clone a single calf. A traditional cow/calf ranching operation can breed and sell a weaned calf (at a profit) to a feedlot for $200-$300 to be raised until butcher age.
Starting costs for a cloned calf at several thousand dollars is NOT the way to bring 'cheaper' food to the grocery stores. The only thing that would do is price more and more people into becoming vegetarians.
hh

Pie · 12-30-2006, 10:07 AM

Cloned food has been happening for a long time. Just ask anyone who's planted the eyes from a spud...

Iggy · 12-31-2006, 11:43 AM

And we mustn't forget the avocadoes. They have been cloned for years.

CaliforniaMama · 12-31-2006, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pie

Cloned food has been happening for a long time. Just ask anyone who's planted the eyes from a spud...

Isn't that "normal" reproduction, as opposed to cloning?

Pie · 12-31-2006, 03:29 PM

You say po-TAH-to, I say po-TAY-to.

It is cloning. The "daughter" potato has identical DNA to the parent.

footfootfoot · 12-31-2006, 11:34 PM

wouldn't that be true of any cutting which is rooted?

Now, a potato grown from seed (as opposed to a seed potato) would have the dna of both parents. Come to think of it, I've never heard of potato seeds. Do they make seeds? Usually the tops die back, I've never seen a seed pod...

Pie · 01-01-2007, 09:52 AM

Yep. I'm just pointing out that nature has used cloning as a method of procreation for a very long time.
Aside from all that, HH's point is the overriding factor -- why would you bother? It might be worthwhile to create such an offspring for a champion racehorse (although I believe the Jockey Club forbids this) but why do it for food, when the usual process is so much cheaper and easier?

richlevy · 01-01-2007, 12:58 PM

Just to be clear, the term is by-products.

A cloned bi-product would be Anne Heche.

Lorac · 01-01-2007, 08:00 PM

Isn't growing a spud eye more like having a child, not cloning? I imagine a more genetically produced item. If you were referring to something llke starter for bread, they would have killed yeast long ago.
Oh, and isn't SPAM "PRE-CLONE?, merely space-age like TANG?

And Rich, Yes, but My bi-product clone would be a mix of Rosie and Ellen...very happy

Pie · 01-01-2007, 08:41 PM

How is it like having a child? There is no sexual reproduction involved; the daughter entity has the same genetic material as the parent.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-03-2007, 07:56 PM

I heard on the radio, yesterday, they have bred a cow that lacks the specific protein that "Mad Cow" needs to survive and grow. They're are injecting this cow with the disease to make sure their theory is correct.
If it works out well, I can see them wanting to clone this cow... a lot.

I think I'll start on my screenplay, hmmmm.....resistant cow....inject...cow doesn't contract disease....sun comes out...children dance....happy, happy....inside the cow the injected disease, not finding the protein, morphs into a time bomb disease, infecting every part of the cow....even the blood the insects are drinking...... [intermission], Lets all go to the lobby, Lets all go to the lobby, Lets all go to the lobby, And get ourselves a treat. [/intermission]...... Everybody dies .... The End.

footfootfoot · 01-03-2007, 08:50 PM

Pollyanna.

Pie · 01-03-2007, 09:31 PM

Yeah, and the LHC is going to make black holes and kill us all. Next!

12-29-2006, 10:59 PM	#1
Lorac Non-Newbie Sort Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paragould , Arkansas Posts: 6	cloned bi-products This incredible new product from cloned animals brings to mind a million possibilities. The media has alerted us that meat and milk and eggs from cloned animals is an idea we need to digest. I am scared in multi dementions. What effect will there be? Cheap produce? Strange species of SPAM? WHAT??? Your input? (as a spouse, I know that this will not take 5 posts to involve how to cook what.......)

12-29-2006, 11:24 PM	#2
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Hot DOGS ?? Chihuleshules with Hot souce ?? Whale Peni in penna ?? Spam in a can that opens it self for you " Don't worry about those sharp edges , OOPs I cut my self , ohhhh look I'm bleeding GRAVY !!!!! " ,,,,,, __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

12-30-2006, 09:48 AM	#3
Hoof Hearted ...you smell something? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Monroe, GA Posts: 420	I don't see it happening anytime soon. It currently costs $3k-$4k to clone a single calf. A traditional cow/calf ranching operation can breed and sell a weaned calf (at a profit) to a feedlot for $200-$300 to be raised until butcher age. Starting costs for a cloned calf at several thousand dollars is NOT the way to bring 'cheaper' food to the grocery stores. The only thing that would do is price more and more people into becoming vegetarians. hh __________________ I have the ability of single-minded determination and focu...Hey, look! A horse!

12-30-2006, 10:07 AM	#4
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Cloned food has been happening for a long time. Just ask anyone who's planted the eyes from a spud... __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

12-31-2006, 11:43 AM	#5
Iggy Back and ready to tart up the place Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 850	And we mustn't forget the avocadoes. They have been cloned for years. __________________ Chock-full of naughty goodness.

12-31-2006, 03:29 PM	#7
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	You say po-TAH-to, I say po-TAY-to. It is cloning. The "daughter" potato has identical DNA to the parent. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

12-31-2006, 11:34 PM	#8
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	wouldn't that be true of any cutting which is rooted? Now, a potato grown from seed (as opposed to a seed potato) would have the dna of both parents. Come to think of it, I've never heard of potato seeds. Do they make seeds? Usually the tops die back, I've never seen a seed pod... __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

01-01-2007, 09:52 AM	#9
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Yep. I'm just pointing out that nature has used cloning as a method of procreation for a very long time. Aside from all that, HH's point is the overriding factor -- why would you bother? It might be worthwhile to create such an offspring for a champion racehorse (although I believe the Jockey Club forbids this) but why do it for food, when the usual process is so much cheaper and easier? __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

01-01-2007, 12:58 PM	#10
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Just to be clear, the term is by-products. A cloned bi-product would be Anne Heche. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

01-01-2007, 08:00 PM	#11
Lorac Non-Newbie Sort Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paragould , Arkansas Posts: 6	Isn't growing a spud eye more like having a child, not cloning? I imagine a more genetically produced item. If you were referring to something llke starter for bread, they would have killed yeast long ago. Oh, and isn't SPAM "PRE-CLONE?, merely space-age like TANG? And Rich, Yes, but My bi-product clone would be a mix of Rosie and Ellen...very happy

01-01-2007, 08:41 PM	#12
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	How is it like having a child? There is no sexual reproduction involved; the daughter entity has the same genetic material as the parent. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not. Last edited by Pie; 01-01-2007 at 08:42 PM. Reason: didn't know the smiley code as well as I thought.

01-03-2007, 07:56 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I heard on the radio, yesterday, they have bred a cow that lacks the specific protein that "Mad Cow" needs to survive and grow. They're are injecting this cow with the disease to make sure their theory is correct. If it works out well, I can see them wanting to clone this cow... a lot. I think I'll start on my screenplay, hmmmm.....resistant cow....inject...cow doesn't contract disease....sun comes out...children dance....happy, happy....inside the cow the injected disease, not finding the protein, morphs into a time bomb disease, infecting every part of the cow....even the blood the insects are drinking...... [intermission], Lets all go to the lobby, Lets all go to the lobby, Lets all go to the lobby, And get ourselves a treat. [/intermission]...... Everybody dies .... The End. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-03-2007, 08:50 PM	#14
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Pollyanna. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

01-03-2007, 09:31 PM	#15
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Yeah, and the LHC is going to make black holes and kill us all. Next! __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

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