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03-28-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TGRR

It's about time the damn dems figured it out. I thought those morons would NEVER catch on.

Now I'm gonna put some popcorn on and watch the GOP howl on CSPAN.

Nothing wrong with trying for a little consensus building and bi-partisanship as a first step.

But when the Repubs take consensus building and bi-partisanship to mean they should have an equal voice rather than just a seat at the table and the opportunity to have their voice heard and then walk away in a huff when they dont get everything they want....then its time to play hard ball.

Undertoad · 03-28-2009, 11:37 AM

Let them filibuster. I don't think the public will find it very impressive behavior.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-28-2009, 01:15 PM

Fox News will play them as heroes and their base will cheer wildly.

Undertoad · 03-28-2009, 01:43 PM

Well they'll do that regardless.

It's interesting, because the GOP is still looking for some way to insist that they have principles that the voters can believe in. It'll be important for them to take it all the way on some issue in the next two years, and then give in before appearing to be simply naysayers.

Maybe that's why the Ds put health care into the budget. Let them filibuster for two weeks, then say, OK, we'll take health care out and make that a separate bill, now either allow the vote or use reconciliation to get the rest of the budget passed. Then when health care is separate, if they filibuster again they'll look bad.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-28-2009, 01:46 PM

Sounds like a good plan.

sugarpop · 03-28-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

So you don't agree with Sen. Lincoln and you support the Democrats abuse of it in this care to pass legislation that "is likely to influence nearly every feature of the U.S. economy"?

How is it abuse when republicans are the ones who've used it the most? My god, buncha babies, whine when the other side wants to use the same tactics they themselves used. Not to mention, the way fillibusters are used today is not how they were meant to be used. If one side or the other wants to fillibuster, they should have to stand up and make endless speeches, not just go straight to a vote.

sugarpop · 03-28-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR

It's about time the damn dems figured it out. I thought those morons would NEVER catch on.

Now I'm gonna put some popcorn on and watch the GOP howl on CSPAN.

hear hear. I'm SO glad they are doing it this way.

heh. btw did you see the budget the republicans put out? With no numbers in it? bwaaahahahahahahahahaaaa A budget with no numbers!!!

Happy Monkey · 03-28-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Because you're lying about the process not being transparent. You may not like it but it is transparent. Everybody and their fucking brother knows what is going on, and you can't get more transparent than that.

Merc's got his own definition of "transparent" that I'm pretty sure he's not going to let any of us know.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-28-2009, 07:26 PM

Oh, I'm sure most of us have figured it out already. He's replaced goddammit, sonuvabitch, and all other expletives at unwelcome news with, "where's the transparency".

TheMercenary · 03-29-2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Oh, I'm sure most of us have figured it out already. He's replaced goddammit, sonuvabitch, and all other expletives at unwelcome news with, "where's the transparency".

Whatever you say there Boss. You are the mind reader around here, not me.

Happy Monkey · 03-29-2009, 09:44 AM

Q.E.D.

TheMercenary · 03-29-2009, 09:46 AM

Q.E.F.

TGRR · 04-02-2009, 10:46 PM

Check out HR1444, kiddies! Wheeeeeeeeee!

ZenGum · 04-03-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

hear hear. I'm SO glad they are doing it this way.

heh. btw did you see the budget the republicans put out? With no numbers in it? bwaaahahahahahahahahaaaa A budget with no numbers!!!

Depends ... is infinity a number?

Shawnee123 · 04-03-2009, 09:34 AM

A budget with no numbers? Is that anything like Mendelssohn's Song Without Words?

03-28-2009, 01:15 PM	#63
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Fox News will play them as heroes and their base will cheer wildly. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-28-2009, 01:46 PM	#65
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Sounds like a good plan. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-28-2009, 07:26 PM	#69
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Oh, I'm sure most of us have figured it out already. He's replaced goddammit, sonuvabitch, and all other expletives at unwelcome news with, "where's the transparency". __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-29-2009, 09:44 AM	#71
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Q.E.D. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

03-29-2009, 09:46 AM	#72
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Q.E.F. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

03-28-2009, 11:37 AM	#62
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Let them filibuster. I don't think the public will find it very impressive behavior.

03-28-2009, 01:43 PM	#64
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Well they'll do that regardless. It's interesting, because the GOP is still looking for some way to insist that they have principles that the voters can believe in. It'll be important for them to take it all the way on some issue in the next two years, and then give in before appearing to be simply naysayers. Maybe that's why the Ds put health care into the budget. Let them filibuster for two weeks, then say, OK, we'll take health care out and make that a separate bill, now either allow the vote or use reconciliation to get the rest of the budget passed. Then when health care is separate, if they filibuster again they'll look bad.

04-02-2009, 10:46 PM	#73
TGRR Horrible Bastard Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: High Desert, Arizona Posts: 1,103	Check out HR1444, kiddies! Wheeeeeeeeee! __________________ What can we do to help you stop screaming?

04-03-2009, 09:34 AM	#75
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	A budget with no numbers? Is that anything like Mendelssohn's Song Without Words? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

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