Separate Beds? - Page 4

HungLikeJesus · 10-05-2008, 03:33 PM

I'm waiting for Michael Jackson to respond to that last one.

DanaC · 10-05-2008, 05:47 PM

He's busy in the fairground he built in his backgarden...

How was he found not guilty?

Juniper · 10-05-2008, 07:22 PM

OK, come on, you know what I mean! For parents. Sheesh.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-05-2008, 08:53 PM

Isn't the main job of parents to teach the spawn to survive on their own?
Unlike pets you know you're going to take care of for the rest of their life.

classicman · 10-05-2008, 09:03 PM

That depends of your political affiliation, xob

Juniper · 10-05-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Isn't the main job of parents to teach the spawn to survive on their own?
Unlike pets you know you're going to take care of for the rest of their life.

I like to think that human life is about more than just survival.

Any idiot can teach a kid how to survive on his own. Neglect does that, too.

I'd prefer that my kids learn to thrive on their own. And learn to find happiness, build healthy relationships, and contribute to society in a positive way.

Of course, I also don't refer to them as "spawn." Perhaps therein lies the difference.

jinx · 10-05-2008, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Isn't the main job of parents to teach the spawn to survive on their own?

Human infants are not mentally or physically equipped to survive on their own... they need to develop for several years first.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-05-2008, 10:03 PM

I used spawn because I wasn't limiting my remark to humans.
You can feel all superior, and touchy~feely~lovey~dovey about your kids, but the fact remains you are an animal, and my remark applies to ALL animals. :p

jinx · 10-05-2008, 10:09 PM

You didn't really make a remark, you just asked a question... but are you trying to suggest that no animal learned to survive on their own before the invention of spare rooms and cribs? Or than other animals generally sleep separate from their young(the ones that nurture them at all obviously)? And that that teaches them to survive?

Cloud · 10-05-2008, 10:21 PM

Spawn. great comic. shitty movie. probably not an accurate appellation for mammalian offspring, either.

We all raise our children in our own way. Personally, I felt/feel fine about sleeping with my own babies and small children, but I like older children to have their own beds.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-05-2008, 10:22 PM

I'm saying human parents, like all animals, are obligated to teach their offspring to survive. Anything beyond that is for piece of mind, that they've done the best they could, for the kid's future.

jinx · 10-05-2008, 10:26 PM

Well yea, anything beyond survival for anyone is for piece of mind... aka our day to day lives, who we are.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-05-2008, 10:32 PM

Sure, humans get into all that emotional stuff, along with the basic duty.
Of course for humans, basic survival is more complicated, too.
I can't see a Mother Moose telling her twins;
You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim, da do da do...

Juniper · 10-05-2008, 10:38 PM

And this goes along with the original point of the thread, how?

classicman · 10-05-2008, 11:00 PM

It doesn't - this is called thread drift.

10-05-2008, 03:33 PM	#46
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10-05-2008, 08:53 PM	#49
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Isn't the main job of parents to teach the spawn to survive on their own? Unlike pets you know you're going to take care of for the rest of their life. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-05-2008, 09:03 PM	#50
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	That depends of your political affiliation, xob __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-05-2008, 10:03 PM	#53
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I used spawn because I wasn't limiting my remark to humans. You can feel all superior, and touchy~feely~lovey~dovey about your kids, but the fact remains you are an animal, and my remark applies to ALL animals. :p __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-05-2008, 10:09 PM	#54
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	You didn't really make a remark, you just asked a question... but are you trying to suggest that no animal learned to survive on their own before the invention of spare rooms and cribs? Or than other animals generally sleep separate from their young(the ones that nurture them at all obviously)? And that that teaches them to survive? __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

10-05-2008, 05:47 PM	#47
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	He's busy in the fairground he built in his backgarden... How was he found not guilty?

10-05-2008, 07:22 PM	#48
Juniper I know, right? Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,539	OK, come on, you know what I mean! For parents. Sheesh.

10-05-2008, 10:21 PM	#55
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Spawn. great comic. shitty movie. probably not an accurate appellation for mammalian offspring, either. We all raise our children in our own way. Personally, I felt/feel fine about sleeping with my own babies and small children, but I like older children to have their own beds. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

10-05-2008, 10:22 PM	#56
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I'm saying human parents, like all animals, are obligated to teach their offspring to survive. Anything beyond that is for piece of mind, that they've done the best they could, for the kid's future. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-05-2008, 10:26 PM	#57
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Well yea, anything beyond survival for anyone is for piece of mind... aka our day to day lives, who we are. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

10-05-2008, 10:32 PM	#58
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Sure, humans get into all that emotional stuff, along with the basic duty. Of course for humans, basic survival is more complicated, too. I can't see a Mother Moose telling her twins; You don't tug on Superman's cape You don't spit into the wind You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger And you don't mess around with Jim, da do da do... __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-05-2008, 10:38 PM	#59
Juniper I know, right? Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,539	And this goes along with the original point of the thread, how?

10-05-2008, 11:00 PM	#60
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	It doesn't - this is called thread drift. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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