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Old 10-07-2006, 08:35 PM   #1
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Home repair

Still trying to get finished with repairs from Katrena and do other maintenance. Paint and so forth. On the front of my house, I have 3 doors, only one opens. The UV, rain and what ever over the last 50? years has caused a problem with the finish. I asked at home center here and have no good ideas.
Would like to place something over outside so I don't have to keep repairing it.
Maybe these photos will give someone an idea.
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Old 10-07-2006, 11:12 PM   #2
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I know absolutely nothing about home repair ... but what about stripping and coating with polyurethane, assuming the wood is in reasonably good condition to start? That stuff is like magic.
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Old 10-07-2006, 11:49 PM   #3
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You don't have a combination storm/screen door on the outside?
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:28 AM   #4
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You don't have a combination storm/screen door on the outside?
Yes, but sometimes it rains when I'm away from home and glass is up
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Old 10-08-2006, 02:00 PM   #5
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You need an awning over the door...or better yet, a porch. Short of a steel or fiberglass door, it'll be a constant battle.
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Old 10-08-2006, 02:48 PM   #6
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:49 PM   #7
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I know absolutely nothing about home repair ... but what about stripping and coating with polyurethane, assuming the wood is in reasonably good condition to start? That stuff is like magic.
I second Wolf on the knowing nothing about home repair AVOID polyurethane like the plague. It won't stand up to the moisture/heat cycling. Even spar varnish will eventually go and need refinishing.

The lower door just (just as though it was not a lot of work) needs to be brought to bare wood, sanded. Prime with benjamin moore fresh start OIL BASED primer. Don't put it on too thick. A little dab'll do ya. Then top coat with Ben Moore oil.

OR skip the paint and primer all together and finish with a semi transparent stain.

The top pic looks like the veneer on the door has gone bad. New door.

And a screen or sun shade will add years to the life of the door.

My south facing door is falling apart and the (latex) paint is shot after 4 years. The north facing door installed and painted at the same time looks brand new.
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:14 PM   #8
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The guy at store said maybe formica(sp) but couldn't say about glue to keep it on. The uv thing isn't too bad since I've not trimmed the camomilers?flowers? in years. They keep AM sun off house. He wanted to sell me new skins for doors. Hell then I'd be back at same old crap.
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:15 PM   #9
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You need an awning over the door...or better yet, a porch. Short of a steel or fiberglass door, it'll be a constant battle.
Bruce has cited a first necessary item. An exterior door should never be exposed directly to the weather. A storm door is a kludge attempt to accomplish same. Any home built responsibly will have a roofed overhang or that doorway recessed into the building. No better solution.

Second, wooden doors are just begging for problems. Wooden doors warp - especially when exposed to weather - and are poor insulators. Wooden doors that are less susceptible are also most expensive – selling to McMansion owners.

Original doors probably can be saved by removing them, burning off failing paint, power sanding, and applying a good primer and paint. Hinges must be so solid as to never more – ever. Oil base paints should be used due to weather of exposure and because no warping is acceptable for a door. Door must be the best sealed exterior building part.

Refinishing is a temporary solution due to existing damage. Best solution is to remove and replace the door with something intended to be structurally sound, provide better security, and will work under heavy traffic.

You need not implement all recommendations to achieve a useful solution.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:12 PM   #10
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The brownish-yellow door appears to be delaminating. That's gonna make repair damn near impossible.

In the absence of a storm door, an exposed wooden door would definitely need several nice, heavy coats of polyurethane, and that means quality prep. However, once suitably prepped and coated in poly, it would be damn near bulletproof. That stuff is amazing.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:37 PM   #11
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Buster B , Get your self some STEEL doors and door frames , Harder to kick in , and you can sand prime and paint with oil paint , ALL good
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Old 10-09-2006, 09:41 PM   #12
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Polyurethane hates UV rays (sunlight) but diamond plate doesn't care.
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:54 PM   #13
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My house is on the move, has been for years. I had a porch and cut it off after leaks and rotten wood. Patrick That door is a hollow core, which should never been to out side. Think I can get a solid core for 20 bucks. Have to be trimmed ect.
Anyway I just had a brain fart. Maybe cedar siding? On 2 doors on side. Price might stop that. Ideas?
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:00 AM   #14
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a hollow core door can be filled with the sprayon insulation stuff. Drill at least two holes (large enough for the nozzle) the second one alllows the air to escape and be relaced by the foam insulation.

Then if you treat the door with polyurethane, be sure to put on multiple coats (6 or 7) and do all the edges. The edges are where a lot of the moisture exchange takes place.

edit: and use steel wool between coats for a really smooth finish.
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:47 AM   #15
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timeout! that urethane-in-a-can needs to be used with extreme caution. make darn sure you have room for the expansion, and fill s-l-o-w-l-y, cause if you just firehose the stuff in there, and the second hole can't keep up with the exhaust, so to speak, the newly drying/expanding/becoming-tacky foam will grab where it touches, say, the inside of the door, and keep right on expanding. It can **easily** pop the skin off the frame of the door.

I have seen it explode the end of a kayak, wrapped in fiberglass. it *WILL* expand. Somewhere. Trust me.
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