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11-24-2004, 01:14 AM | #61 |
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There, it works, I've washed my brain, my mind is clean as a whistle. Now I have to finish up by cleaning the rest of me. I'll have to take a shower so I'll take my clothes off and get naked. Damn.....now I have to start all over again.
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11-24-2004, 01:17 AM | #62 | |
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11-24-2004, 10:46 AM | #63 | |
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So be careful with that fire water. Personally, I'm a scotch and water kind of guy myself, when I take a drink, but to each their own. |
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11-24-2004, 11:00 AM | #64 | |
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Wah, are you, or have you ever been a *client* at Wolf's place of employment? or maybe he's flippant's alter ego...humm?
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11-24-2004, 12:04 PM | #65 | |
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11-24-2004, 12:52 PM | #66 | |
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Actually, White zinfadel and a percocet has been my choice of late. I'm sure the wine has sufficient H2O. Maybe It's the percocet thats counteracting the positive cleansing effects of the wine. There are many people who enjoy the spin. 1 in 10 are alcoholics. Alcoholism is defined as when the use causes significant problems in ones life. There are actually people who drink daily. These people defined by the Big Book of A.A. are considered heavy drinkers. I have known people who drank beer etc.. everyday, but it never caused them problems such as jails, institutions, or any of the other problems that are caused by alcoholism....
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11-24-2004, 01:08 PM | #67 | |
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Umm, I've been to 'jail' before (DUI, to continue the threadjack)...there's a story there, as per. As to the other, I get to that well down in this mefi thread. [search word: "foucault" & "insanity"] Also, I agree with the 'social definition' of alcoholism. Many of those who 'need' the substance everyday are quite capable of leading mostly normal lives, but, I think most would agree, it puts quite a strain on things. Things like your 'liver'. |
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11-24-2004, 03:16 PM | #68 |
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NEWSFLASH
************Whiskey Contains Alcohol..........................................
Imagine that.
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11-24-2004, 03:23 PM | #69 |
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Wolf: Allow me to guess where you work.
Ithink you reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, And experience 2-3 hours of happiness each work day (during the evening hours). Also there is probably one evening each week that you show some favoritism to ladies. Hmmmmmmmm this is a hard one.
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11-24-2004, 06:54 PM | #70 |
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i find it disturbing and amusing that some cellarites continue to think that in order for a soldier to do his job (kill people and blow shit up) , he must either be brainwashed or have a cold dark heart full of murderous intent.
while there are some individuals that fall into that category currently wearing the uniform, you won't find them in much greater proportion than you would in everyday civilian society. most professional soldiers understand that it is a job. that is not to say that they were forced into it by dire financial need and they would run away if there was any other choice. the military men and women fill a special calling. those that choose to stay more than one enlistment understand that. as individuals they have their own ideas of right/wrong, just/unjust - just the same as everyone in here. they accept the fact that the execution of their duties will, at times, require the death of someone. they understand that their actions and decisions will pick who that someone will be - themselves or someone who is in the same position but from another nation or organization. it is as simple as that. i've got 13 years in the military and this is a conversation that i've had and heard in a lot of different places with a lot of different military members. i don't hold any particular hatred for the person i may fire my weapon at. i'm sure they've got a family and friends that love them. but i don't really give a shit. they are on the other side. whether it is by their choice(jihadists), or a politician's choice (iraqi or american), is unimportant. they are people but they are also targets, just as i am in their eyes. professional soldiers know that it isn't up to us mete out justice. we're not naive. we are the "big stick" that allows politicians to negotiate and lead in the direction they feel is appropriate. sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong. it doesn't really matter that much on the ground what led up to the war, only the most effective way to eliminate those that stand in the way of the path our government has chosen. and CapnHowdy - Wolf is most definitely not a bartender.
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11-24-2004, 11:17 PM | #71 | |
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The water is only to soften the blow. Once a few go down, the stuff tastes like candy, and the water is ordered on the side. lookout123, I agree with pretty much everything you said. The 'brainwasing' is just 'heavy training'. That story showed how useful it is for maintaining discipline under intense circumstances. I know the vast majority of soldiers, like regular people, are not psychopaths. I would argue there is a <i>slightly</i> larger percentage, however, and that the percentage increases given one's exposure to war. It also makes for a number of <i>extremely steady</I> people too, and probably a good bit more of those that on the other end of the spectrum. To shift gears wildly, I'd say that Palestine is a good example of a breeding ground for psychopaths and heroes. Israel, to some extent, is the same, but with wealth comes class and the actions look different. Anyway, thanks for a good conversation. I just noticed the IOTD rss feed, so will probably be around more often. Nice to meet ya'll. |
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I'm sorry panel, but we're just going to have to declare this round over.
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