Israeli naval commandos stormed a flotilla of ships - Page 3

TheMercenary · 06-07-2010, 07:15 PM

They should blow any Iranian ship out of the water.

Urbane Guerrilla · 06-08-2010, 10:43 PM

Oh consarn it -- missed this thread looking for a place to post this: A Favorite Columnist

Spexxvet · 06-09-2010, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

They should blow any Iranian...

Just because you blow any Iranian doesn't mean the Israelis should.

GunMaster357 · 06-09-2010, 08:27 AM

Nice job...

Griff · 06-09-2010, 04:44 PM

Revenge

At times ... I wish
I could meet in a duel
the man who killed my father
and razed our home,
expelling me
into
a narrow country.

And if he killed me,
I’d rest at last,
and if I were ready—
I would take my revenge!

*

But if it came to light,
when my rival appeared,
that he had a mother
waiting for him,
or a father who’d put
his right hand over
the heart’s place in his chest
whenever his son was late
even by just a quarter-hour
for a meeting they’d set—
then I would not kill him,
even if I could.

*

Likewise ... I
would not murder him
if it were soon made clear
that he had a brother or sisters
who loved him and constantly longed to see him.
Or if he had a wife to greet him
and children who
couldn’t bear his absence
and whom his gifts would thrill.
Or if he had
friends or companions,
neighbors he knew
or allies from prison
or a hospital room,
or classmates from his school...
asking about him
and sending him regards.

*

But if he turned
out to be on his own—
cut off like a branch from a tree—
without a mother or father,
with neither a brother nor sister,
wifeless, without a child,
and without kin or neighbors or friends,
colleagues or companions,
then I’d add not a thing to his pain
within that aloneness—
not the torment of death,
and not the sorrow of passing away.
Instead I’d be content
to ignore him when I passed him by
on the street—as I
convinced myself
that paying him no attention
in itself was a kind of revenge.

Nazareth
April 15, 2006

Taha Muhammad Ali

BigV · 06-10-2010, 01:42 PM

Outstanding Griff. Thank you very much.

Undertoad · 06-10-2010, 05:20 PM

What Hamas did during the flotilla outrage

Quote:

As Israeli naval commandos raided the flotilla ship convoy that was on its way to the Gaza Strip, Hamas security officers stormed the offices of five non-governmental organizations, confiscated equipment and documents, and ordered them closed indefinitely.

Ever since it seized control over the Gaza Strip in the summer of 2007, Hamas has imposed a reign of terror on the local population in general and its critics in particular. Hamas has brought nothing to the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip other than death and disaster.

The raid on the NGOs in the Gaza Strip, which received little coverage in the media, is seen by many Palestinians as part of Hamas's ongoing crackdown on political opponents and human rights organizations.

Further, Hamas's recent decision to ban municipal elections in the Gaza Strip is yet another violation of one of the basic rights of its constituents.

Get elected, ban elections.

TheMercenary · 06-10-2010, 07:52 PM

Stop that now UT!

They are just, just, just, peace makers.... not

spudcon · 06-10-2010, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff

Revenge

At times ... I wish
I could meet in a duel
the man who killed my father
and razed our home,
expelling me
into
a narrow country.

And if he killed me,
I’d rest at last,
and if I were ready—
I would take my revenge!

*

But if it came to light,
when my rival appeared,
that he had a mother
waiting for him,
or a father who’d put
his right hand over
the heart’s place in his chest
whenever his son was late
even by just a quarter-hour
for a meeting they’d set—
then I would not kill him,
even if I could.

*

Likewise ... I
would not murder him
if it were soon made clear
that he had a brother or sisters
who loved him and constantly longed to see him.
Or if he had a wife to greet him
and children who
couldn’t bear his absence
and whom his gifts would thrill.
Or if he had
friends or companions,
neighbors he knew
or allies from prison
or a hospital room,
or classmates from his school...
asking about him
and sending him regards.

*

But if he turned
out to be on his own—
cut off like a branch from a tree—
without a mother or father,
with neither a brother nor sister,
wifeless, without a child,
and without kin or neighbors or friends,
colleagues or companions,
then I’d add not a thing to his pain
within that aloneness—
not the torment of death,
and not the sorrow of passing away.
Instead I’d be content
to ignore him when I passed him by
on the street—as I
convinced myself
that paying him no attention
in itself was a kind of revenge.

Ah, the hell with it. I'll waste the bastard!

Nazareth
April 15, 2006

Taha Muhammad Ali

squirell nutkin · 06-10-2010, 10:07 PM

Griff,
That is beautiful. It reminds me of this by Thich Nhat Hanh

Call Me by My True Names

Do not say that I'll depart tomorrow
because even today I still arrive.

Look deeply: I arrive in every second
to be a bud on a spring branch,
to be a tiny bird, with wings still fragile,
learning to sing in my new nest,
to be a caterpillar in the heart of a flower,
to be a jewel hiding itself in a stone.

I still arrive, in order to laugh and to cry,
in order to fear and to hope.
The rhythm of my heart is the birth and
death of all that are alive.

I am the mayfly metamorphosing on the surface of the river,
and I am the bird which, when spring comes, arrives in time
to eat the mayfly.

I am the frog swimming happily in the clear pond,
and I am also the grass-snake who, approaching in silence,
feeds itself on the frog.

I am the child in Uganda, all skin and bones,
my legs as thin as bamboo sticks,
and I am the arms merchant, selling deadly weapons to
Uganda.

I am the twelve-year-old girl, refugee on a small boat,
who throws herself into the ocean after being raped by a sea
pirate,
and I am the pirate, my heart not yet capable of seeing and
loving.

I am a member of the politburo, with plenty of power in my
hands,
and I am the man who has to pay his "debt of blood" to, my
people,
dying slowly in a forced labor camp.

My joy is like spring, so warm it makes flowers bloom in all
walks of life.
My pain if like a river of tears, so full it fills the four oceans.

Please call me by my true names,
so I can hear all my cries and laughs at once,
so I can see that my joy and pain are one.

Please call me by my true names,
so I can wake up,
and so the door of my heart can be left open,
the door of compassion.

Thich Nhat Hanh

Griff · 06-11-2010, 05:40 AM

Brilliant SN.

classicman · 06-11-2010, 08:38 AM

Wow, just wow. Thats excellent.

Urbane Guerrilla · 06-11-2010, 06:48 PM

The Gazans can show their fondness for peace and tranquility by summarily hanging and shooting all the Hamas in town, without exception. Perhaps an Ishmael or two might be able to outrun the peace activists, to make it back to Iran and tell the mullahs that try didn't work.

classicman · 06-14-2010, 08:46 AM

Gaza flotilla deaths can be blamed on Obama

Quote:

According to a report by World Tribune, the nine deaths that occurred when Israeli commandos stormed the Free Gaza "aid" flotilla that tried to break Israel's maritime blockade of the Hamas-ruled territory last week can be largely blamed on US President Barack Obama.

The paper cited diplomatic sources that revealed Obama had demanded Israel "exercise extreme caution and restraint" and not use traditional non-lethal riot gear against the passengers, even after Israel shared intelligence showing the passenger of the Mavi Marmara were affiliated with a Turkish terror group and likely to offer violent resistance.

Had the Israelis boarded the Mavi Marmara with tear gas and rubber bullets, it is very likely there would have been no fatalities in the confrontation.

Instead, the Israeli commandos carried only paintball guns and pistols. They were quickly overwhelmed by dozens of "peace" activists wielding knives and clubs, and several of the Israelis were taken hostage. The second wave of commandos, understandably fearful that their captured comrades were being lynched or may end up like other abducted Israeli soldiers, quickly requested and received permission to use their sidearms.

In a misguided effort to prevent a violent clash by putting the Israeli commandos and the activists on equal f

Link
Not exactly an unbiased source. Are these people serious?
Is Israel really that much under the US control?
Right down to the weapons their commandos use?

Color me skeptical.

piercehawkeye45 · 06-14-2010, 05:07 PM

Israel under US control? I've always thought it was the other way around...

06-08-2010, 10:43 PM	#32
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Oh consarn it -- missed this thread looking for a place to post this: A Favorite Columnist __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

06-09-2010, 08:27 AM	#34
GunMaster357 Professor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brest (FRANCE) Posts: 1,837	Nice job... __________________ "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." - Ambrose Bierce

06-09-2010, 04:44 PM	#35
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Revenge At times ... I wish I could meet in a duel the man who killed my father and razed our home, expelling me into a narrow country. And if he killed me, I’d rest at last, and if I were ready— I would take my revenge! * But if it came to light, when my rival appeared, that he had a mother waiting for him, or a father who’d put his right hand over the heart’s place in his chest whenever his son was late even by just a quarter-hour for a meeting they’d set— then I would not kill him, even if I could. * Likewise ... I would not murder him if it were soon made clear that he had a brother or sisters who loved him and constantly longed to see him. Or if he had a wife to greet him and children who couldn’t bear his absence and whom his gifts would thrill. Or if he had friends or companions, neighbors he knew or allies from prison or a hospital room, or classmates from his school... asking about him and sending him regards. * But if he turned out to be on his own— cut off like a branch from a tree— without a mother or father, with neither a brother nor sister, wifeless, without a child, and without kin or neighbors or friends, colleagues or companions, then I’d add not a thing to his pain within that aloneness— not the torment of death, and not the sorrow of passing away. Instead I’d be content to ignore him when I passed him by on the street—as I convinced myself that paying him no attention in itself was a kind of revenge. Nazareth April 15, 2006 Taha Muhammad Ali __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-10-2010, 01:42 PM	#36
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Outstanding Griff. Thank you very much. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

06-10-2010, 10:07 PM	#40
squirell nutkin has a second hand user title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in a Nut House Posts: 2,017	Griff, That is beautiful. It reminds me of this by Thich Nhat Hanh Call Me by My True Names Do not say that I'll depart tomorrow because even today I still arrive. Look deeply: I arrive in every second to be a bud on a spring branch, to be a tiny bird, with wings still fragile, learning to sing in my new nest, to be a caterpillar in the heart of a flower, to be a jewel hiding itself in a stone. I still arrive, in order to laugh and to cry, in order to fear and to hope. The rhythm of my heart is the birth and death of all that are alive. I am the mayfly metamorphosing on the surface of the river, and I am the bird which, when spring comes, arrives in time to eat the mayfly. I am the frog swimming happily in the clear pond, and I am also the grass-snake who, approaching in silence, feeds itself on the frog. I am the child in Uganda, all skin and bones, my legs as thin as bamboo sticks, and I am the arms merchant, selling deadly weapons to Uganda. I am the twelve-year-old girl, refugee on a small boat, who throws herself into the ocean after being raped by a sea pirate, and I am the pirate, my heart not yet capable of seeing and loving. I am a member of the politburo, with plenty of power in my hands, and I am the man who has to pay his "debt of blood" to, my people, dying slowly in a forced labor camp. My joy is like spring, so warm it makes flowers bloom in all walks of life. My pain if like a river of tears, so full it fills the four oceans. Please call me by my true names, so I can hear all my cries and laughs at once, so I can see that my joy and pain are one. Please call me by my true names, so I can wake up, and so the door of my heart can be left open, the door of compassion. Thich Nhat Hanh __________________ And now I'm finished posting.

06-07-2010, 07:15 PM	#31
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	They should blow any Iranian ship out of the water.

06-10-2010, 07:52 PM	#38
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Stop that now UT! They are just, just, just, peace makers.... not

06-11-2010, 05:40 AM	#41
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Brilliant SN. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-11-2010, 08:38 AM	#42
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Wow, just wow. Thats excellent. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-11-2010, 06:48 PM	#43
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	The Gazans can show their fondness for peace and tranquility by summarily hanging and shooting all the Hamas in town, without exception. Perhaps an Ishmael or two might be able to outrun the peace activists, to make it back to Iran and tell the mullahs that try didn't work. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

06-14-2010, 05:07 PM	#45
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Israel under US control? I've always thought it was the other way around... __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

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