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06-07-2013, 07:25 AM | #1 |
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PRISM
In case you haven't heard...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/invest...7_story_1.html ... the US government is (allegedly) doing massive (allegedly) illegal data mining through some of the biggest internet companies (allegedly) including google, facebook and apple. Well, when I signed up for Gmail, I just assumed that Uncle Sam would be snooping through the data one way or another, and always treated it accordingly.
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06-07-2013, 07:32 AM | #2 |
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It's one of those things I always assumed they were doing, but to see it confirmed is pretty shocking.
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06-07-2013, 07:53 AM | #3 |
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I can't say whether the government is doing all that .... but if it is, PRISM has saved all our lives from multiple terrorist attacks. It's the most important anti-terror tool we have, I mean if it exists, it would be the
most important anti-terror tool we have. And how could something initiated by the Bush administration be bad?
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06-07-2013, 07:49 AM | #4 |
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Always plan your terror excursions using Cellar private messaging. They haven't asked me for access yet.
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06-07-2013, 07:53 AM | #5 |
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Unless they have another secret program that does.
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06-07-2013, 08:04 AM | #6 |
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I plan all my terror activities by snail mail and in person.
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06-07-2013, 08:20 AM | #7 |
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They couldn't read the Cellar PMs without me knowing. That's why they should just intercept data at key exchange points. I don't know why they would even have to talk to Yahoo to get information on their servers, when they could just read your Yahoo Mail at the router.
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06-07-2013, 08:50 AM | #8 |
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06-08-2013, 08:18 AM | #9 | |
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06-08-2013, 08:28 AM | #10 |
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"Horror at Their Capabilities" Drove Leak of NSA Spying Program
He's going to get the Bradley Manning treatment.
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06-08-2013, 10:04 AM | #11 | |
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What do Google and Allied Waste have in common ?
We give them our raw materials for free, they claim absolute ownership, sort it, and sell it for profit. Bloomberg Christopher Flavelle Jun 8, 2013 Does Google Have an Ethical Obligation Not to Spy? Quote:
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06-08-2013, 10:20 AM | #12 |
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Now that national elections are meaningless maybe the right approach is stockholder pressure. At least its a front that can be fought.
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06-08-2013, 12:01 PM | #13 | |
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It actually seems that PRISM is not illegal and has been approved by pretty much all three branches of government. This data mining is a definitely a true slippery slope and it can be strongly argued to violate the 4th amendment, but this seems to be a bi-partisan move that is well known among all elected officials.
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Note: That article is an obvious defense of PRISM and there will likely be a lot of political spin on this in the next few weeks but I think it is important to try to look at PRISM for what it really is (in a factual sense).
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06-08-2013, 12:55 PM | #14 |
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You put your whole fucking life online and are worried about someone finding out what you've been up to?
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06-08-2013, 01:51 PM | #15 |
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I can't tell you what privacy means in the electronic age. I do know that I choose to share on the cellar but I don't name a lot of names and am vague when I feel its warranted. My company forces me to use gmail so I keep that account pretty sterile. I don't fazebook but I have an unused lunkedin account with minimal info and few connections... The English version of privacy has government cameras rolling the Merican has private cameras rolling... Corporations spend a lot on collecting data to sell or to sell us stuff. The same data that sells me a subscription to Mother Earth News could put me on a nutter survivalist watch list. If we look at the drug war folks are killed by their government by accident all the time so what would make the WOT any different? I ask because I don't know. The fascination with secrecy displayed by our government is interesting, individuals have no expectation of privacy but the government that serves us has become extremely opaque.
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