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Clodfobble · 09-04-2008, 08:03 PM

Do those pregnancy rates include abortions? That is, is it that the overall pregnancy rate is going up, or the rate of teen abortions is going down?

Pico and ME · 09-04-2008, 08:08 PM

Abortion rates have fallen.

jinx · 09-04-2008, 08:09 PM

Could we maybe get a link?

Pico and ME · 09-04-2008, 08:11 PM

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...705604,00.html

jinx · 09-04-2008, 08:15 PM

Cool, I havn't read that article.
How about something recent enough to show the impact of JLS pregnancy?

Pico and ME · 09-04-2008, 08:23 PM

http://health.usnews.com/usnews/heal...us-reports.htm

Not a direct correlation, but the numbers are up.

A more current article, but same report.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/07/10...ncy/index.html

jinx · 09-04-2008, 08:31 PM

Thanks!
I'm trying to find the actual data on the cdc site, but can't seem to find anything post 2005 (although the article you linked has cdc data from 2006). Am I just blind?
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/teenbrth.htm

Pico and ME · 09-04-2008, 08:44 PM

http://www.childstats.gov/americaschildren/famsoc.asp

Pico and ME · 09-04-2008, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

The rates actually started to increase a bit after that one....this one will only add to its impact. Rates had been in decline since 1991.

I dont mean to demonize teen pregnancy, but there are negatives associated with it....and those negatives are even more pronounced when the girl does not come from a rich family.

I will amend that this statement is not backed up by any data. I made a quick assumption, however, it still does not change my viewpoint that Palins daughters pregnancy will only add fuel to the fire of the increasing rates.

TheMercenary · 09-05-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

My fear is that, unfortunately, as a result of this VERY high profile teen pregnancy, teen pregnancy rates will climb. Thats not a good thing.

There is no evidence to support that statement.

Pico and ME · 09-05-2008, 02:55 PM

Its pretty hard to find evidence for something that hasnt happened yet.

But since teen pregnancies have been on the rise for the last couple of years, a high profile pregnancy like this might only help to increase its acceptability.

I do hope, though, that it will bring to the forefront that giving teens good information about sex and contraceptives is better than telling them to just dont do it.

TheMercenary · 09-05-2008, 04:54 PM

I still don't buy it. That is like saying there was a spike in drunk driving when Princess Di died. Just because the daughter of a high profile person has a teen pregnancy there would be no way to prove, much less measure any direct correlation with teen preg rates.

Undertoad · 09-05-2008, 05:14 PM

Some woman on the news has a kid that got knocked up. That won't change the decisions of the teens in the back row seat of the van. Not at all.

TheMercenary · 09-05-2008, 05:21 PM

"But mom! Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnant!"

BigV · 09-05-2008, 05:37 PM

comedy gold!

09-04-2008, 08:03 PM	#31
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09-04-2008, 08:09 PM	#33
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09-04-2008, 08:15 PM	#35
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Cool, I havn't read that article. How about something recent enough to show the impact of JLS pregnancy? __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

09-04-2008, 08:23 PM	#36
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	http://health.usnews.com/usnews/heal...us-reports.htm Not a direct correlation, but the numbers are up. A more current article, but same report. http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/07/10...ncy/index.html Last edited by Pico and ME; 09-04-2008 at 08:30 PM.

09-04-2008, 08:31 PM	#37
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Thanks! I'm trying to find the actual data on the cdc site, but can't seem to find anything post 2005 (although the article you linked has cdc data from 2006). Am I just blind? http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/teenbrth.htm __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

09-04-2008, 08:08 PM	#32
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Abortion rates have fallen.

09-04-2008, 08:11 PM	#34
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...705604,00.html

09-04-2008, 08:44 PM	#38
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	http://www.childstats.gov/americaschildren/famsoc.asp

09-05-2008, 02:55 PM	#41
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Its pretty hard to find evidence for something that hasnt happened yet. But since teen pregnancies have been on the rise for the last couple of years, a high profile pregnancy like this might only help to increase its acceptability. I do hope, though, that it will bring to the forefront that giving teens good information about sex and contraceptives is better than telling them to just dont do it.

09-05-2008, 04:54 PM	#42
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I still don't buy it. That is like saying there was a spike in drunk driving when Princess Di died. Just because the daughter of a high profile person has a teen pregnancy there would be no way to prove, much less measure any direct correlation with teen preg rates. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

09-05-2008, 05:14 PM	#43
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Some woman on the news has a kid that got knocked up. That won't change the decisions of the teens in the back row seat of the van. Not at all.

09-05-2008, 05:21 PM	#44
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	"But mom! Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnant!" __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

09-05-2008, 05:37 PM	#45
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	comedy gold! __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

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