Billions in Change: 5 hour energy mogul is pretty cool

lumberjim · 10-08-2015, 02:51 PM

monster · 10-08-2015, 06:51 PM

that is cool

xoxoxoBruce · 10-08-2015, 07:04 PM

His Michigan headquarters has to be the biggest meth lab ever.

glatt · 10-09-2015, 08:00 AM

I always glanced at those bottles in disapproval, but if he's gonna do that with the proceeds, I'll look at them with approval now.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-09-2015, 09:17 AM

Pablo Escobar gives to charity, glatt?
Regardless of whether you approve of how he obtained his wealth, his ideas on how to help people are sound. Small amounts, directly to people in need, do much more good than millions to an impoverished nation thinking it will trickle down from the politician/leaders. It doesn't. This has been proven over and over with micro-loans and village projects. The problem is you have to have an army of on the ground people you can trust, to find truly needy people and give them what they need. A person with no potable water, doesn't need an electric blanket.

lumberjim · 10-09-2015, 09:30 AM

What would YOU (each of you reading this) do if you found yourself to be worth $4B in a few years time? How would you spend it? Would you do what this guy is doing? It's fun to think about. Having seen this, I think I would do something like this.... Maybe not as focused on direct impact on the downtrodden... but the R&D angle, funding 'useful to everyone' tech is really cool.

I'd probably want to do something to further the production of clean energy... like cold fusion or super solar collectors.....

That, and I'd have a Bat Cave and all of the toys that go with it.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-09-2015, 09:47 AM

Buy slaves to build me a pyramid, and hire Jack Black as chief slave whipper.

glatt · 10-09-2015, 10:13 AM

I would want to do something similar, except it would be work to find just the right people to give money to. You can't just start throwing money around because then everyone will come out of the woodwork with their hand out.

Sundae · 10-09-2015, 04:12 PM

If I had that crazy amount of money, I would want to set up some community housing complexes.
Helping people who can't quite manage alone, but aren't far gone enough to require medical assistance day to day (wonder where that idea came from?)

There would be some sort of attendant facilities for people to work. Well, "work" to start with. Coffee shops or farms or animal sanctuaries, where they could build self respect and skills alongside the professionals who really were running the show. Obviously every charity (because it would be, for tax purposes) also needs office staff, book-keepers, chefs etc, so it wouldn't simply be channelling people into minimum wage work.

They would be a safe place for people to recuperate and get back on track.
And I'd pay the staff very well, so they also had a positive experience from their potentially challenging roles.

It wouldn't change the world. But it would save a few lives and change a few which had become unmanageable.

monster · 10-09-2015, 08:52 PM

1) I'd try to make good education free and accessible to all -train teachers well, pay them well, ditto support staff. Provide adequate facilities, and focus on helping each student excel in their strength whilst covering the basics rather than teaching to test and holding everyone back to the lowest common denominator to make it easy/level the playing field. And encourage folks to give back to continue the program when they excel in their field.

2) I'd buy some garden tools, a pack of peas, a compost bin and a food processor for all who cannot afford their own. And teach them how to make whirled peas.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-09-2015, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster

1) I'd try to make good education free and accessible to all -train teachers well, pay them well, ditto support staff.

What!? Pay teachers well?! That's un-American?! Why do you hate America? Uh, never mind that question, I don't have the time.

Griff · 10-10-2015, 08:43 AM

I really like his mechanics view of all this. He is "cool."

10-08-2015, 02:51 PM	#1
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Billions in Change: 5 hour energy mogul is pretty cool __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

10-08-2015, 06:51 PM	#2
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	that is cool __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

10-08-2015, 07:04 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	His Michigan headquarters has to be the biggest meth lab ever. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-09-2015, 09:17 AM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Pablo Escobar gives to charity, glatt? Regardless of whether you approve of how he obtained his wealth, his ideas on how to help people are sound. Small amounts, directly to people in need, do much more good than millions to an impoverished nation thinking it will trickle down from the politician/leaders. It doesn't. This has been proven over and over with micro-loans and village projects. The problem is you have to have an army of on the ground people you can trust, to find truly needy people and give them what they need. A person with no potable water, doesn't need an electric blanket. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-09-2015, 09:30 AM	#6
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	What would YOU (each of you reading this) do if you found yourself to be worth $4B in a few years time? How would you spend it? Would you do what this guy is doing? It's fun to think about. Having seen this, I think I would do something like this.... Maybe not as focused on direct impact on the downtrodden... but the R&D angle, funding 'useful to everyone' tech is really cool. I'd probably want to do something to further the production of clean energy... like cold fusion or super solar collectors..... That, and I'd have a Bat Cave and all of the toys that go with it. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

10-09-2015, 08:00 AM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I always glanced at those bottles in disapproval, but if he's gonna do that with the proceeds, I'll look at them with approval now.

10-09-2015, 09:47 AM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Buy slaves to build me a pyramid, and hire Jack Black as chief slave whipper. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-09-2015, 10:13 AM	#8
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I would want to do something similar, except it would be work to find just the right people to give money to. You can't just start throwing money around because then everyone will come out of the woodwork with their hand out.

10-09-2015, 04:12 PM	#9
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	If I had that crazy amount of money, I would want to set up some community housing complexes. Helping people who can't quite manage alone, but aren't far gone enough to require medical assistance day to day (wonder where that idea came from?) There would be some sort of attendant facilities for people to work. Well, "work" to start with. Coffee shops or farms or animal sanctuaries, where they could build self respect and skills alongside the professionals who really were running the show. Obviously every charity (because it would be, for tax purposes) also needs office staff, book-keepers, chefs etc, so it wouldn't simply be channelling people into minimum wage work. They would be a safe place for people to recuperate and get back on track. And I'd pay the staff very well, so they also had a positive experience from their potentially challenging roles. It wouldn't change the world. But it would save a few lives and change a few which had become unmanageable. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-09-2015, 08:52 PM	#10
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	1) I'd try to make good education free and accessible to all -train teachers well, pay them well, ditto support staff. Provide adequate facilities, and focus on helping each student excel in their strength whilst covering the basics rather than teaching to test and holding everyone back to the lowest common denominator to make it easy/level the playing field. And encourage folks to give back to continue the program when they excel in their field. 2) I'd buy some garden tools, a pack of peas, a compost bin and a food processor for all who cannot afford their own. And teach them how to make whirled peas. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

10-10-2015, 08:43 AM	#12
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I really like his mechanics view of all this. He is "cool." __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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