Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

[Undertoad]

right on time, the excellent Chloe Valdary

[Griff]

I got a call from a client yesterday. The agency she is working through for visitation just got shutdown due to positive staff tests. Folks were getting complacent around here...

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J's test came back negative. Mine is still pending

[Diaphone Jim]

If the United States had a death toll from COVD-19 at the same rate as the rest of the world we would have about 50,000 deaths, 5% of the total.
Instead we have 200,000, 20% of the total.
There is one main reason that the extra 150,000 Americans have died this year and it is Donald Trump and his ignorance, arrogance, selfishness, greed and dishonesty.
I am afraid that given that fact, I cannot find it in my heart or mind to give a damn if he dies of the disease he has all but caused.
He does not deserve our hopes and prayers or our forgiveness.
He has pillaged and vandalized this country and made the world worse for all its people except for an extremely few.
He and his vile enablers will lie their way through his illness in the coming days and use it to benefit their campaign.
It is foolish to expect any decency from them.

[sexobon]

The Donald knows how much everyone all over the world loves him so he's hanging in there for youse guys. It's a miracle!

[xoxoxoBruce]

He won't die of this. In that past year since it first appeared in September of 2019 the medical researchers have made great strides in understanding how this virus behaves in the body. At first they said it screwed the lungs so the went with vents, but from tests and autopsies they're finding how it attacks the heart and blood as well as doing brain damage in some people.

Trump doesn't have to worry about brain damage, and like the Grinch his heart is tiny. So if they can stop the lung damage he'll be tweeting it's no worse than the flu in no time.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Do you remember the PharmaFist from Canada?
He's been posting about various facets of the Covid-19 pandemic.
Most are posted in French but Chrome automatically translates for me.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

... So if they can stop the lung damage he'll be tweeting it's no worse than the flu in no time.

They'll make a movie about his ordeal. It'll be titled: One Flu Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

[lumberjim]

Is the global total death count... Without respect to cause.... Abnormally high this year? I've tried to find raw numbers, but I just see crude death rate and such. 8.3 deaths per thousand, etc.

I want to see a chart with how many people on earth died each month for the last 48 months or so. Is there a discernable spike since the Wuhan got loose?

[jaminhealth]

Hi Dude and all, on this Covid, I have and will continue to keep my Immune System strong and healthy. The US and world are in sad places..

Due to other issues I have not had to wear a mask as I stay around my apt bldg and love the fresh air I breath when I out outside and MOST of my friends don't wear one when they visit me.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by jaminhealth

Hi Dude and all, on this Covid, I have and will continue to keep my Immune System strong and healthy. The US and world are in sad places..

Due to other issues I have not had to wear a mask as I stay around my apt bldg and love the fresh air I breath when I out outside and MOST of my friends don't wear one when they visit me.

That's not a good idea. Scientists all over the world have been working on every aspect of the virus and leaned an awful lot it a year since it first appeared. One discovery is the hand washing and lifespan of the virus on different surface types is far less important than the first thought, although it's still a good idea even without the virus threat.

But probably the most important thing is aerosol transmission, which was dismissed in the beginning, seems to be a major vector. Not the big and little droplets with the 6 ft spacing requirement, but the tiny virus carrying moisture that travels around the room on air currents both natural and HVAC created. They finally verified this is a major problem.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Not the big and little droplets with the 6 ft spacing requirement, but the tiny virus carrying moisture that travels around the room on air currents both natural and HVAC created. They finally verified this is a major problem.

Over the weekend, I went camping and had to take my mask off in the bathroom when I brushed my teeth. I was the only one in the bathroom, but I still felt super vulnerable, because there was no ventilation in there. There could have been a covid dude that used the bathroom an hour before me and left, and then I went in and got infected.

Anyway, I kind of held my breath and breathed shallow breaths when I couldn't hold it any longer, and got out as fast as I could. The following night, I brushed my teeth in the campsite.

And when I used the bathroom for real, I wore a mask.

Statistically, the infection rate is something like half a percent or one percent, so odds are I will be fine from that one slip up, but you can't be sure.

It's little screw ups like that, where you let your guard down for a moment, that it's going to get you. Which would be a real shame after all I've gone through to get to this point.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

Is the global total death count... Without respect to cause.... Abnormally high this year? I've tried to find raw numbers, but I just see crude death rate and such. 8.3 deaths per thousand, etc.

I want to see a chart with how many people on earth died each month for the last 48 months or so. Is there a discernable spike since the Wuhan got loose?

This article has a partial view of the expected vs. actual deaths charts you're looking for--not for all causes in total, but looking individually at heart attacks, diabetes, Alzheimer's, and stroke in key states between March and May of this year. Some of the increase may be directly related to a stealth COVID infection, while some may also be regular health incidents that would have been survivable in a normal year, but people were afraid to go to the hospital.

[lumberjim]

Yah there's that too. When this first started, and they shut the world down, I thought, the collateral damage would be worse than the disease. I was thinking economically and psychologically, but people being afraid or unable to get treatment must be considered as well.

The alienation might still come out to be the worst part of it at the end though. The economy will recover. We'll 'beat' the virus.... But the fear of others and separateness may take longer to heal. The normalizing pressure. We see another human as a threat now. We have divergent opinions about the severity of the disease and divide further along lines that didn't exist before. He should wear a mask, she should calm down, etc. New words and phrases like anti-masker and social distance have entered the lexicon.

These uncertain times.

It's all about division. The speed at which news travels is a major factor. Things change quickly and become normal easily.
Look what happened to the name Karen in the last year.

That's why I want a 100 mile up look at things. It's the only way to get an objective view