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Old 03-23-2009, 09:07 PM   #16
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I was just amusing myself.

You all take everything soooo seriously.

it's a sign of...a sf (SF) geek.


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Old 03-23-2009, 09:08 PM   #17
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I didn't know we we dividing sci-fi from classics. Now we have the task of defining both of them to prove that they are mutually exclusive. Wow. Good luck on this tedious, futile task.
I didn't make you take up the assignment, baby. You coulda just brought a doctor's note.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:47 PM   #18
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I agree with what beestie wrote.

proof: Ender's Game imagines the 'nets' 20 years before they become the politics forum on the cellar.

I expect Demosthenes and Locke to register any time.....
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Old 03-24-2009, 01:10 AM   #19
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I don't think the book Lessing won for is Science Fiction.
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Old 03-24-2009, 07:40 AM   #20
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I expect Demosthenes and Locke to register any time.....
I'm reading this with my 9 year old girl right now, and she loves the idea of Demosthenes and Locke. She giggled with delight when the Wiggins father was quoting Demosthenes at the dinner table to his children.
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Old 03-24-2009, 08:21 AM   #21
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OK, this is weird.. I've written two replies to this thread and neither one appeared. I was pretty sure I got distracted and left without clicking "post" on the first one. The second one?? Maybe I'm going crazy. (I'm also trying out Google Chrome FWIW.)

Anyway. Bri--why don't you make a recommendation from some people of "literature" I should read. Something relatively new I'm not likely to have heard of--not classics.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:10 AM   #22
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Ah, i've been made to feel like a snob when all I was trying to do was have a bit of fun.

I like stupid mainstream stuff anyway - nothing relevatory. bit of a bore, I guess.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:11 AM   #23
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I don't know what you have and haven't read or heard of, but how about

The Kite Runner

and then A Thousand Splendid Suns
by Khaled Hosseini
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:11 AM   #24
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Life of Pi?

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Old 03-24-2009, 09:13 AM   #25
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:15 AM   #26
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:16 AM   #27
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But ... but ... I like both.



And I know that if you want to look like a real geek you should call it SF not SciFi. Dunno why though. Geeks can be pretty snobby sometimes.
You betcha! I wanted to point that out, but . . . I didn't need any more nerd points.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:19 AM   #28
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We should change the name of The Cellar to A Confederacy of Dunces.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:44 AM   #29
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I took a SF literature course back in college. The prof had a difficult time coming up with a reading list because he figured anyone taking the class would have already read a lot of SF. So he was looking for obscure but good books. Most were really good reads, so I figured I'd list them here for anyone who might be interested. Off the top of my head, I can recall:

Canticle for Leibowitz by Miller. I liked it a lot.

Where Softly Late the Sweet Birds Sang by Wilhelm. I liked it a lot.

Childhood's End by Clarke. Good read.

The Forever War by Haldeman. Excellent.

The short story The Star Thrower by Eisley. Not a fun read, but the kind of thing you would expect to be given to read in college. Weighty.

There was another Clarke book in there. It think it was Rendezvous with Rama. Not one of his better novels, but worth reading.

I think the prof might have given us Neuromancer too, which was not obscure at that time. Neuromancer is an important book, because it predicts a lot, but I never liked it that much. It's had a lot of influence in pop culture though.

There were about 5-6 more, but I can't remember which ones they are. I've read so many on my own.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:45 AM   #30
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The Time Traveller's Wife (can't recall the author).
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