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Old 09-23-2009, 10:18 AM   #16
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Hush, wackoman. You'll just encourage him.

HA!
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Old 09-23-2009, 10:50 AM   #17
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:55 PM   #18
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So...nobody has an answer?

How very disappointing. Can it be that the conservatards were full of shit from the get-go?

Say it ain't so.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:59 PM   #19
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"Having read the posts over there from the last two days, I can see no further point in talking to the Cellar Dwellars. They have nothing but disdain for us, even though we've done nothing they haven't, so to hell with the hypocrites. Ignore 'em, troll'em, do whatever the hell you like, as far as I'm concerned. I have no further use for them whatsoever." -TGRR

What turned you around on this opinion, my friend?
Okay. I can take a hint.
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Old 09-24-2009, 07:35 AM   #20
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...apparently not.
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:31 AM   #21
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conservatives, liberals: two sides of the same worthless coin...

"Can it be that the conservatards were full of shit from the get-go?"


Yep: just like the lefties...

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"So...nobody has an answer?" to "explain the outright failure of your dire predictions to materialize?"


The reason no one answered is embedded in two things.

First: most sensible folks (and an ever-decreasing number of those there are!) recognize the conservative and liberal ideologies, as religions (and religions they are!), are useless. That is: the sensible are off figuring out how to navigate around, under, and through, the shit foisted up by both parties/cults.

Second: Obama is a mediocre man with mediocre ideas. The sensible ignore alarmism and marketing/propaganda 'cause the jigaboo will do nothing that hasn't already been done, that is, consolidate power for the 'nobles' on both sides of the aisle and leech off the citizenry.

Now, do sumthin' 'bout it...
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:01 AM   #22
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"Can it be that the conservatards were full of shit from the get-go?"


Yep: just like the lefties...

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"So...nobody has an answer?" to "explain the outright failure of your dire predictions to materialize?"


The reason no one answered is embedded in two things.

First: most sensible folks (and an ever-decreasing number of those there are!) recognize the conservative and liberal ideologies, as religions (and religions they are!), are useless. That is: the sensible are off figuring out how to navigate around, under, and through, the shit foisted up by both parties/cults.

Second: Obama is a mediocre man with mediocre ideas. The sensible ignore alarmism and marketing/propaganda 'cause the jigaboo will do nothing that hasn't already been done, that is, consolidate power for the 'nobles' on both sides of the aisle and leech off the citizenry.

Now, do sumthin' 'bout it...
Nice.

Also, I like how "conservative" or "liberal" doesn't even describe either party's ideologies.
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:24 AM   #23
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So, Obama's has been president for 8 months, and...

He's already a better president, and accomplished more positive change than George W. Bush did in 8 years.


He's ended the Iraq war and he's pulling troops out. He's reversed Bush's insane policy on stem-cell research, he took drastic steps to save the economy that was spiraling out of control toward another great depression, etc.

So far he's a better president than Bush, his father, Carter, Reagan, Ford, Nixon, or Johnson.
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:25 AM   #24
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Defending the President

Constructive criticism is a positive part of democracy, but Destructive criticism for the sake of attack, and often void of logic, is pure politics. The latter is the majority of criticism President Obama has faced in recent months.


Critics have attacked President Obama relentlessly since he hit the 100 day mark. Why? Do they really think 100 days is a measure of success? Do they understand the way Presidential orders and Congressional bills work? Do they know there’s an entire administration of people who work 15 hour days running our nation, a responsibility most of these critics can’t even imagine? Do they even have any concept of how government works? A president doesn’t just create a new law, sign it into effect, and bingo that’s it. There are steps to ensure the democratic way and these steps take time. It took Bush at least nine months to destroy the success of the Clinton years. It’s going to take a lot longer to fix eight years of destructive and neglectful governing. Give Obama a chance.


Those who do understand the way our government works and still attack the president are just out to get him. They are not going to give him a chance and they never intended to. It won’t matter what he does; they’ll find something ridiculous to say, even if it doesn’t make much sense, i.e. radio and FOX news.


What I wonder is how many of these “critics” have someone (even just one single person) examining everything they do in their lives? Probably not many of them. It’s really easy to sit back and pick on someone from afar. It’s also easy to criticize someone for a job they’ll never know anything about. It’s also too easy to examine someone else while failing to look at yourself.


The following is a short list of the Obama administration’s recent accomplishments (from WhiteHouse.gov) There are many more, but this is a work in progress.

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Old 09-24-2009, 10:26 AM   #25
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ECONOMY
Progress
  • The President announced the "Making Home Affordable" home refinancing plan.
  • The President launched a $15 billion plan to boost lending to small businesses.
  • The President and Secretary Geithner announced the details of the Financial Stability Plan.
  • President Obama played a lead role in G-20 Summit that produced a $1.1 trillion deal to combat the global financial crisis.
  • The President signed the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act which gives the federal government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud, from lending to the financial system, and creates a bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission to investigate the financial practices that brought us to this point.
  • The President signed the Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, expanding on the Making Home Affordable Program to help millions of Americans avoid preventable foreclosures, providing $2.2 billion to help combat homelessness , and helping to stabilize the housing market for everybody.


DEFENSE
Progress


DISABILITY
Progress


The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act included a number of provisions of particular concern to people with disabilities.
  • The Act included $500 million to help the Social Security Administration reduce its backlog in processing disability applications.
  • The Act supplied $12.2 billion in funding to the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA);
  • The Act also provided $87 billion to states to bolster their Medicaid programs during the downturn; and,
  • The Act provided over $500 million in funding for vocational rehabilitation services to help with job training, education and placement.


CIVIL RIGHTS
Progress


EDUCATION
Progress
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act invested heavily in education both as a way to provide jobs now and lay the foundation for long-term prosperity.
  • The Act includes $5 billion for early learning programs, including Head Start, Early Head Start, child care, and programs for children with special needs.
  • The Act also provides $77 billion for reforms to strengthen elementary and secondary education, including $48.6 billion to stabilize state education budgets (of which $8.8 billion may be used for other government services) and to encourage states to:
    • Make improvements in teacher effectiveness and ensure that all schools have highly-qualified teachers;
    • Make progress toward college and career-ready standards and rigorous assessments that will improve both teaching and learning;
    • Improve achievement in low-performing schools, through intensive support and effective interventions; and
    • Gather information to improve student learning, teacher performance, and college and career readiness through enhanced data systems.
  • The Act provides $5 billion in competitive funds to spur innovation and chart ambitious reform to close the achievement gap.
  • The Act includes over $30 billion to address college affordability and improve access to higher education.

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Old 09-24-2009, 10:26 AM   #26
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ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT
"So we have a choice to make. We can remain one of the world's leading importers of foreign oil, or we can make the investments that would allow us to become the world's leading exporter of renewable energy. We can let climate change continue to go unchecked, or we can help stop it. We can let the jobs of tomorrow be created abroad, or we can create those jobs right here in America and lay the foundation for lasting prosperity."
-President Obama, March 19, 2009
Progress
    • $11 billion for a bigger, better, and smarter grid that will move renewable energy from the rural places it is produced to the cities where it is mostly used, as well as for 40 million smart meters to be deployed in American homes.
    • $5 billion for low-income home weatherization projects.
    • $4.5 billion to green federal buildings and cut our energy bill, saving taxpayers billions of dollars.
    • $6.3 billion for state and local renewable energy and energy efficiency efforts.
    • $600 million in green job training programs – $100 million to expand line worker training programs and $500 million for green workforce training.
    • $2 billion in competitive grants to develop the next generation of batteries to store energy.
  • The President issued a memorandum to the Department of Energy to implement more aggressive efficiency standards for common household appliances, like dishwashers and refrigerators. Through this step, over the next three decades, we’ll save twice the amount of energy produced by all the coal-fired power plants in America in any given year.
  • Supporting the first steps of a legally-binding treaty to reduce mercury emissions worldwide.
  • On Earth Day 2009, the President unveiled a program to develop the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents. These regulations will enable, for the first time ever, the nation to tap into our ocean’s vast sustainable resources to generate clean energy in an environmentally sound and safe manner.


FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY
Progress
  • The President signed an Executive Order on government contracting to fight waste and abuse.
  • The President launched Recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, an unprecedented step to provide transparency and accountability through technology.
  • The President wrote to the congressional leadership calling on them to pass statutory Pay-As-You-Go rules so that any new non-emergency tax cut or entitlement expansion offset in the budget.
  • The President signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system.


FOREIGN POLICY
Progress
  • Appointed Special Envoys for Climate Change, Southwest Asia, the Middle East, Sudan, and a Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan.
HEALTH CARE

"I suffer no illusions that this will be an easy process. It will be hard. But I also know that nearly a century after Teddy Roosevelt first called for reform, the cost of our health care has weighed down our economy and the conscience of our nation long enough. So let there be no doubt: health care reform cannot wait, it must not wait, and it will not wait another year."
– President Barack Obama, February 24, 2009
Progress
    • $1 billion for prevention and wellness to improve America’s health and help to reduce health care costs;
    • $1.1 billion for research to give doctors tools to make the best treatment decisions for their patients by providing objective information on the relative benefits of treatments; and
    • $500 million for health workforce to help train the next generation of doctors and nurses.
TAXES
Progress
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act included a broad range of tax cuts aimed at making the tax code more fair and supporting the middle class:
  • 95% of all working families will receive a tax cut
  • 70% of the tax benefits goes to the middle 60% of American workers
  • 2 million families will be lifted out of poverty by the tax cuts in the Recovery Act
  • More than $150 billion in tax cuts will help low-income and vulnerable households during the economic recovery
  • About 1 Million jobs will be created or saved by these tax cuts alone
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:49 AM   #27
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how odd...thread gone...thread back...*shrug*

"I like how "conservative" or "liberal" doesn't even describe either party's ideologies'

Placeholders are placeholders. I didn't choose 'em.

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"...he's a better president than Bush, his father, Carter, Reagan, Ford, Nixon, or Johnson."

And warm shit is better than cold shit. Both are still shit when served on a platter and named 'steak'.

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"Destructive criticism for the sake of attack, and often void of logic, is pure politics."

No, that's the blood- and cum-stained event called 'civilization'.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:57 AM   #28
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"I like how "conservative" or "liberal" doesn't even describe either party's ideologies'

Placeholders are placeholders. I didn't choose 'em.

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"...he's a better president than Bush, his father, Carter, Reagan, Ford, Nixon, or Johnson."

And warm shit is better than cold shit. Both are still shit when served on a platter and named 'steak'.

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"Destructive criticism for the sake of attack, and often void of logic, is pure politics."

No, that's the blood- and cum-stained event called 'civilization'.
I wasn't critiquing your choice of words, just making an observation.
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:01 PM   #29
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"just making an observation"

Me too...no offense taken or intended...
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:08 PM   #30
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Wow links from obama-truth.blogspot.com and whitehouse.gov that are defending the president - What wonderful unbiased information - Thanks radar.
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