Let them eat cake!

UT do not respond. Remember our promise to one another. I am sure the following will get me banned for the third or fourth time, but if I can't post my opinionand not even attack another member, ethnic group, or spamming the board, what's the point?

POEM

September 2004 was a very good year
It was good for the poor
And best of all for

Campbell’s
Chicken
Noodle
Soup.
Alas, that vintage cannot be found on the shelves
anymore.

But clever aficionados’’ have stored cans in their soup cellars.
I am told that the vintage will reach its peak in 2010
when the price is likely to reach 2 cents per can.

But despair not, American Entrepreneur!
You can go down to the food commodities center
You know:
that place for the cons, the mother’s of three living off the system, and the disabled
(who really are notdisabled, they just crossed some doctor’s palm with golden eagles).

And you can receive completely free of charge
Campbell’s 2004.

If you are lucky, you might come across some 1999-powdered milk (generic).

Why do we have the FDA?

To make sure those with money live and those without succumb to some odd disease
the rest of you call food poisoning.

Now, it being the holiday season and all,
I don’t wish to be greedy.
The first Mom who PM’s me with her shipping address,
I will mail her my can of 2004 Campbell’s
Chicken Noodle Soup
Vintage 2004.

I’m sure your children will love it.

Happy Holidays,

Marichiko

[LabRat]

WTF are you going on about?

[Clodfobble]

She got a free can of soup from the food bank, and she's pissed that it's from 2004.

So pissed that she's supposedly willing to pay several dollars shipping to make a point about the can of soup she supposedly couldn't afford to buy in the first place.

[DanaC]

The food bank gave her food that was out of date?

[DanaC]

'supposedly'? are you suggesting that it's all an act and she can actually afford the things she says she can't?

I rather liked the poem. I especially liked the way the name of the soup was staggered across several lines.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by DanaC

are you suggesting that it's all an act and she can actually afford the things she says she can't?

An act? No, I do think she truly believes she can't afford the things she says she can't.

[footfootfoot]

It's the fault of the towing industry, they are crippling us...

[busterb]

Shine and I smoked a pork loin yesterday and the cryovac? shrinkwrap had a date of Oct. 2003. Which is nutts because I lost all in freezer in Katrina. WTF? It was great! BTW

[Ibby]

Not a very good poem, if'n y'ask me.

[JayMcGee]

I totally understand the marychicks POV. I have an illness that will require me to to take medication for the rest of my life (don't panic, it ain't that heavy) but the way the NHS is structured in the UK, and the way the european pharmiceuticals are structured, means that my medication frequentally comes from outside of the UK (made under EU license). Which i ok, mostly..... except now and again the packaging is a bit iffy, and the metered-dose delivery system does not seem to be quite as smooth operating or accurate as it could be. Still, I'm sure it saves the NHS a few pence here and there.

[DanaC]

An act? No, I do think she truly believes she can't afford the things she says she can't.

Oh she believes she can't afford those things. You think maybe she's terribly misguided about her disposable income then? You don't think maybe she just doesn't have very much money?

$671.00/mo plus $10.00 food stamps. No close family to help. No wealthy friends. Ibram, if you consider that a poetry critique, I hope for the sake of the world, you go into stock broking. I wrote a lot more, but I've been having computer problems and it all got erased. 12 per cent of the people in this country are in my situation.

I may explain or not, tomorrow. And to all a good night.

[Clodfobble]

Dana, we've had this conversation a bajillion times before. I will lay this out for you once, and then I'm done. I already regret that I even bothered to reply to this thread...

What one can "afford" is entirely subjective, it's all about what one chooses to spend one's money on. Compare the cost of the following items:

A single can of Campbell's soup - about $1.50
Shipping cost for that soup can in the domestic US - about $6.00
Dial-up internet service - about $10/month
A purebred puppy from a breeder - at least several hundred dollars

It is demonstrably false to say one can buy items 2, 3, and 4 (as mari has), but must rely on charity for item number 1 (as mari has). So yes, I do believe marichiko is, at best, "terribly misguided about her disposable income." I believe food banks should be reserved for people who are truly hungry, not people who waste their limited funds on other items. A homeless person may have one less meal now because mari, with her little cottage, working car, well-fed pets, and internet connection, chose to take advantage of a charity. However, I understand you are a socialist, so who knows what sort of a perspective you may take on who "deserves" the benefit of charities. It doesn't matter. The way mari lives her life has been the topic of conversation far too many times already. I wish I hadn't risen to the bait. Like I said, I'm done.

[SydneyBoy]

Hey, whats wrong with getting a can of soup from 2004?

Its in a can, right? Doesn't go off?

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Dana, we've had this conversation a bajillion times before. I will lay this out for you once, and then I'm done. I already regret that I even bothered to reply to this thread...

What one can "afford" is entirely subjective, it's all about what one chooses to spend one's money on. Compare the cost of the following items:

A single can of Campbell's soup - about $1.50
Shipping cost for that soup can in the domestic US - about $6.00
Dial-up internet service - about $10/month
A purebred puppy from a breeder - at least several hundred dollars

It is demonstrably false to say one can buy items 2, 3, and 4 (as mari has), but must rely on charity for item number 1 (as mari has). So yes, I do believe marichiko is, at best, "terribly misguided about her disposable income." I believe food banks should be reserved for people who are truly hungry, not people who waste their limited funds on other items. A homeless person may have one less meal now because mari, with her little cottage, working car, well-fed pets, and internet connection, chose to take advantage of a charity. However, I understand you are a socialist, so who knows what sort of a perspective you may take on who "deserves" the benefit of charities. It doesn't matter. The way mari lives her life has been the topic of conversation far too many times already. I wish I hadn't risen to the bait. Like I said, I'm done.

A year ago when I bought the dog, I was allowed to earn $400.00 extra dollars per month by SSDI. It was part of my voc rehab process. I delivered phone book all over my mountain town in blizzards, and on weekends sold rose in bars (it sucked, but it got me some money). I wanted that dog because I was all alone and needed a companion to walk with me and bark if a meanie came to the door. The breeder let me make installment payments.

It wasn't easy in Colorado Springs, but easier than here. The ex-axmurderer essentially drove me out of towm by physically abusing me, and destroying my property - smashing whatever he could. He scared me to death and made me want to leave. I have always loved the Western Slope, so when an opening came up here, I took it. Unfortunately, I didn't realize that my food stamps would be cut from $130.00 to $10.00 and the nearest voc rehab and neurologist would be 200 miles away in Grand Junction. Durango has an ordanist that prevents rose vendors like me from coming in and selling. The phone books here are so teensie that they are mailed, not delivered. I want to work but I can't.

I now live in Southwestern Colorado. The nearest town with a pharmact and a real grocery store i16 miles away (32 round trip). The next nearest town where my doctor has his practice is 19 miles (38 round trip). Durango where I sometimes have to go for a specialist is 52 mile round trip. There is NO, repeat NO public transportation out here. My well fed pets subsist on dry cat and dog chow - about $4.50/month for my new cat, $9.00 for my dog.

Apt: $191.00
Pets: 13.50
car insurance 60.00
gas 100.00
cleaning supplies 20.00
personal supplies (shampoo, soap, deorderant, lotion for the dry air here)15.00
laundry (4 loads) 9.00
shoes, clothing from thrift shop 15.00
Internet (dial up) (how dare she? 19.99 (that crap about $10.00 s a lie. I checked)
Phone 20.00
Medicines $14.00
car maintenance $50 (varies)
debt for traffic ticket (didn't come to complete stop on deserted road) 250

Total debt $777.49 on an income of $671.00.
I'll take those two loaves of white bread, mold and all, marked Nov 13, diectly back to the food bank, Cloddfobble. Feel better now? And thanks for your promise to not answer.