I blame.......for our present shit show.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Flint

Is there a different perspective than this?

"McGovern lost in 1972" --48 years ago?

tw seems to think so?

Originally Posted by Undertoad

The time of reformation is at hand. There is no longer a center to aim for. The battle is for how the parties will be defined, to see whether their new form will hold.

Absolutely, there is a great re-sorting. It can't hold where it is.

Originally Posted by Flint

Maybe "center" isn't the right word.
The question is, "is the system, as it is, basically okay" or "do we need to change anything we're doing"?

Trump has succeeded at doing a whole new thing, by just saying, "I'm different!" People WANTED that.

The DNC response is to put things exactly the way they were before Trump.

But then, why did Trump get elected? If everyone thought "the system is basically okay" ??

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eta: how did Obama win? By promising "CHANGE." People WANTED that.

Yep. The DNC actively opposes the challenge of change because the system works for $ome.