Mental Nuts-- Can You Crack 'em? - Page 8

HungLikeJesus · 12-22-2011, 07:34 PM

Then you think the total number of seeds is 16!?

ZenGum · 12-22-2011, 07:40 PM

Oh, no, 128, as you said earlier - that pic is a top view, the whole thing is 4 layers high. So there are 64 in the cube, 64 in the wall which defines the square.

I was just showing this could be made to work and still have the square touching the faces of the cube.

Yet FFF says this is not the answer.

FFF, when people are done, please post the official answer and we can have another puzzle trying to figure out how they reached it.

I really should go do stuff. See all yall later.

footfootfoot · 12-22-2011, 07:47 PM

Hmm, what if it were a square wall around it? i.e. a hollow cube?

For that matter does the cube have to be solid?

jimhelm · 12-22-2011, 07:59 PM

if the number were 16, you could make a cube by stacking 2x2x2 = 8, then a ring of 2,2,2,2 = 8

HungLikeJesus · 12-22-2011, 08:41 PM

That's true, but that's not very many seeds for a prize-winning pumpkin.

jimhelm · 12-22-2011, 10:14 PM

yeah, well... The whole pumpkin with 1ft cubic seeds thing is a bit of a mind fuck anyway....

I mean.... Where the hell did they come up with that shit? They could have used hay bales or coal or...fuck...anything else.

My answer works, so I'm claiming victory for this one. Put me on the list of geniuses.

ZenGum · 12-23-2011, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

Then you think the total number of seeds is 16!?

On second thoughts, yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimhelm

if the number were 16, you could make a cube by stacking 2x2x2 = 8, then a ring of 2,2,2,2 = 8

Yeah, this.

footfootfoot · 12-23-2011, 07:38 AM

The answer, mysteriously enough (they don't give an explanation) is 1024.

glatt · 12-23-2011, 08:03 AM

if 1024 is the answer,
then the answer is that the cube is 8x8x8 and the square around the cube is 8 layers deep on each side. And the corners are filled in. So each side ends up with 128 cubes.

I guess they wanted the sides to be as thick as the cube.

footfootfoot · 12-23-2011, 08:20 AM

Today's nut without seminal obfuscation:

HungLikeJesus · 12-23-2011, 08:27 AM

>>4x40 acres = 160 acres

jimhelm · 12-23-2011, 08:28 AM

i wanna say 60 without doing any math or thinking about it at all.

glatt · 12-23-2011, 08:39 AM

It doesn't say the acres have to be square. So I assumed the fence is a circle, and was going to do the math with Area=pi*r(squared) and circumference=2*pi*r

But I decided to google it and found that HLJ is correct and they are talking about square plots.

ZenGum · 12-23-2011, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

if 1024 is the answer,
then the answer is that the cube is 8x8x8 and the square around the cube is 8 layers deep on each side. And the corners are filled in. So each side ends up with 128 cubes.

I guess they wanted the sides to be as thick as the cube.

I think we, the Cellar, have come up with several answers that meet the requirements as well as this.

A slightly simpler way to do the maths for this answer would be to imagine the 8x8x8 cube in the middle, then image 8 8x8 flat squares abuting each side and filling the corners. 8 sets of 64 = 512.

ZenGum · 12-23-2011, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimhelm

i wanna say 60 without doing any math or thinking about it at all.

Hand back your genius card, sir!

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

It doesn't say the acres have to be square. So I assumed the fence is a circle, and was going to do the math with Area=pi*r(squared) and circumference=2*pi*r

The starting phrase "if one mile of fencing encloses 40 acres ... " fairly strongly implies square fields (although not necessarily).

Clear communication is not the strong point of our nut-setter.

12-22-2011, 07:34 PM	#106
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	Then you think the total number of seeds is 16!? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

12-22-2011, 07:40 PM	#107
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Oh, no, 128, as you said earlier - that pic is a top view, the whole thing is 4 layers high. So there are 64 in the cube, 64 in the wall which defines the square. I was just showing this could be made to work and still have the square touching the faces of the cube. Yet FFF says this is not the answer. FFF, when people are done, please post the official answer and we can have another puzzle trying to figure out how they reached it. I really should go do stuff. See all yall later. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

12-22-2011, 07:47 PM	#108
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Hmm, what if it were a square wall around it? i.e. a hollow cube? For that matter does the cube have to be solid? __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-22-2011, 07:59 PM	#109
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	if the number were 16, you could make a cube by stacking 2x2x2 = 8, then a ring of 2,2,2,2 = 8 __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

12-22-2011, 08:41 PM	#110
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	That's true, but that's not very many seeds for a prize-winning pumpkin. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

12-22-2011, 10:14 PM	#111
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	yeah, well... The whole pumpkin with 1ft cubic seeds thing is a bit of a mind fuck anyway.... I mean.... Where the hell did they come up with that shit? They could have used hay bales or coal or...fuck...anything else. My answer works, so I'm claiming victory for this one. Put me on the list of geniuses. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

12-23-2011, 07:38 AM	#113
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	The answer, mysteriously enough (they don't give an explanation) is 1024. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-23-2011, 08:03 AM	#114
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	if 1024 is the answer, then the answer is that the cube is 8x8x8 and the square around the cube is 8 layers deep on each side. And the corners are filled in. So each side ends up with 128 cubes. I guess they wanted the sides to be as thick as the cube. Attached Images

12-23-2011, 08:20 AM	#115
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Today's nut without seminal obfuscation: Attached Images __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-23-2011, 08:27 AM	#116
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	>>4x40 acres = 160 acres __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

12-23-2011, 08:28 AM	#117
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	i wanna say 60 without doing any math or thinking about it at all. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

12-23-2011, 08:39 AM	#118
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	It doesn't say the acres have to be square. So I assumed the fence is a circle, and was going to do the math with Area=pir(squared) and circumference=2pi*r But I decided to google it and found that HLJ is correct and they are talking about square plots. Attached Images

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