Have we become used to or immune to mass shootings?

[Pete Zicato]

I can only guess, henry quirk, that you are a liberal in disguise. Your strange and illogical arguments seemed designed to drive people away from your point of view.

[henry quirk]

Pete,

Just call me Henry.

Now, what's illogical about my arguments (which aren't really arguments but just an extended fuck you to that dumbass, tw)?

[henry quirk]

Meh...suit yourself.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Pete,

Just call me Henry.

Now, what's illogical about my arguments (which aren't really arguments but just an extended fuck you to that dumbass, tw)?

I don't have enough free time for that. >>

Brandolini's Law AKA The Bullshit Asymmetry Principle: The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

[henry quirk]

Yeah, sure.

Wanna sell me the Golden Gate too?

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"If someone might have been able to save schools children's lives, but didn't because they were just SOOOO annoyed at gun owners, it's not the gun owners who are the problem."

There...reads better now...reads 'true'.

[henry quirk]

C'mon, Pete...I see you there...gimme your best shot.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

C'mon, Pete...I see you there...gimme your best shot.

Could you not say "shot"? Because I just got...

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triggered.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

C'mon, Pete...I see you there...gimme your best shot.

I don't have the free time you seem to have, Henry. But I can tell a hawk from a handsaw. Time to go make dinner.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

C'mon, Pete...I see you there...gimme your best shot.

Ok henry. I've got a few free minutes so let's see what you're willing to do.

I'm willing to have an open and honest discussion with you IF you are willing to abide by some rules.

Honest answers to questions, no bullshit.
No personal attacks.
Keep to the point.
This will be no internet troll fest. Just a real discussion between two people.
Willing to live with some potentially long delays - I still don't have a lot of free time.

Willing to give it a go?

[henry quirk]

"I'm willing to have an open and honest discussion with you IF you are willing to abide by some rules."

Sure, but I've got a few of my own which I'll list in a bit.

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"Honest answers to questions, no bullshit."

I don't bullshit, I'm always honest, I say fuck a lot.

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"No personal attacks."

Act like a human being and you got no worries; ignore what I write and act like tw, then you get what you get.

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"Keep to the point."

I always keep to the point (as I'm cussnin').

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"This will be no internet troll fest. Just a real discussion between two people."

Works for me.

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"Willing to live with some potentially long delays - I still don't have a lot of free time."

Yeah, well I'm only 'here' when I have the time...I've gone weeks and months without doin' the cellar...I'm only here now cuz I got time to kill...if that changes, I'll be gone again...so: we'll just have to play this by ear and hope for the best.

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"Willing to give it a go?"

Yep.

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My rules...

1-When it cones to guns, my essential argument/question is: as I've committed no crimes with my shotgun, why should I (or any law abider) accept restrictions or hobbling in ownership or use of my gun because of the bad acts of others?

Throwin' stats at me will get you a 'that's all well and fine but 'I' didn't do anything wrong so why must 'I' get hobbled?' Not sayin' you can't use stats; am sayin' those stats aren't gonna address my concern/question and I'm probably not gonna spend a whole lotta time on those stats.

2-Being plain-spoken (though mebbe a tiny bit idiosyncratic) in presentation, nuthin' annoys me more than to have what I post ignored, miscatagorized, or misused...this is why tw gets up my nose...he's a fuckin' liar and fuckin' distorter and fuckin' ignorant. You, Pete, don't strike me as those things. So, don't misuse me and we should get along splendidly, even if we disagree.

Summing up...

I have my own particular, peculiar, interest in the issue(s) and I always operate out of that particular, peculiar position. For example: I won't defend or condemn the NRA cuz I don't give a fuck about the NRA, so I won't be prodded or cajoled into doin' either.

Don't pretend I say one thing when you damn well know I've said another. Don't ascribe motivations to me beyond what I ascribe to myself, beyond what's apparent in my posts. In short: don't be tw.

You undestand what I'm sayin' here, or am I just repeatedly muddyin' the waters?

[tw]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

I can only guess, henry quirk, that you are a liberal in disguise.

A curious and interesting take. Although the conclusion is unlikely, the reasoning does make sense.

Something that Col Hogan (Hogan's Heroes) would successfully pull off.