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Old 04-29-2008, 05:01 PM   #31
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It's effed up.

England = England and Wales
Great Britain = England and Scotland
UK = Great Britain and N. Ireland
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Old 04-29-2008, 05:06 PM   #32
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That took way too long for someone to take offense.
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Old 04-29-2008, 05:10 PM   #33
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It's effed up.

England = England and Wales
Great Britain = England and Scotland
UK = Great Britain and N. Ireland
Ahem
England is England
Although many laws apply to England and Wales
You also missed off the British Isles
Which is the UK plus Eire

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Old 04-29-2008, 05:19 PM   #34
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Some of the things one reads about treatment of the aborigine population and their culture make me question this bit, but I'm happy to be corrected. I'll also be the first to say the British can be appalling racists.
Australia was settled under a lie, and Aboriginal people have been treated like shit right from the start. Almost as if they didn't even exist...which would explain why the country was declared 'terra nullius' by the British. Meaning of course, no human habitation what so ever. It may surprise you that even in those times, if a new land was inhabited, the 'discovering country' was supposed to make provisions for/ask for permission to settle the country.

Times are changing now. There's quite a discussion about our recent change of government and the events of the first day of parliament if you care to look here. Times are changing. I have high hopes for the future of our country as we work towards leaving the crimes of our forefathers in the past.
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Old 04-29-2008, 06:29 PM   #35
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You really believe a government is going to make that much difference?

I think not.
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Old 04-29-2008, 06:35 PM   #36
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The government represents the people. I could be cynical and say they can't make a difference, but if I do that, it's like giving up on change. Giving up on a better future for all Australians, and I don't want to do that. I want to be hopeful. There is hope. We can do better than we have done in the past. All of us. But only if we are committed to change.

I am.

Are you?
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:58 PM   #37
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Just goes to show, we may all be more alike than we want to admit -we all have our freaking loonies...... and most of us have no idea which land belongs to whom :p
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:02 PM   #38
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I am more British than any of you.

*does best Churchill impression*

See?

Also Australians are more British than Americans, since Australians are almost exclusively made out of British ex-pats one way or another.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:16 PM   #39
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but there is a town/village with my last name in the UK
Cockerham
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:53 PM   #40
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Probably the biggest difference stems from the attitude and action of the Brits, when the US and Australia were founded.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:54 PM   #41
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Also Australians are more British than Americans, since Australians are almost exclusively made out of British ex-pats one way or another.

That has been the case in the past, but over the last 20 years or so, the number of citizens with mainly British racial origins has been steadily dropping, and continues to do so. According to this article, by 2025, there will be only about 60% (and dropping) of the Australian population with a British background.

Incidentally, did you know that Melbourne has the largest population in the world, of Greeks outside of Athens...and you know how those Catholics like to breed.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:09 PM   #42
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but...but...limey!!! I thought you were a Scot!

If you say you're British, didn't William Wallace do all that for nothing?

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Old 04-30-2008, 05:46 AM   #43
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The government represents the people. I could be cynical and say they can't make a difference, but if I do that, it's like giving up on change. Giving up on a better future for all Australians, and I don't want to do that. I want to be hopeful. There is hope. We can do better than we have done in the past. All of us. But only if we are committed to change.

I am.

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Politicians only represent the people when its election time.
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Old 04-30-2008, 06:12 AM   #44
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Politicians only represent the people when its election time.
Astute.
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Old 04-30-2008, 09:31 AM   #45
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But even then, they are representing themselves, as a champion of the voters.
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