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09-17-2013, 06:22 PM | #1 | |
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September 17, 2013: Crying baby elephant
According to this Huffington Post story, this baby elephant cried for five hours straight after his mother attacked and abandoned him. Quote:
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09-17-2013, 06:30 PM | #2 |
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OMFG.
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09-17-2013, 06:51 PM | #3 |
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I wonder if the baby has some congenital defect that the mother can sense.
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09-18-2013, 03:53 AM | #4 | |
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Apparently rejection is more common for elephants in captivity than in the wild.
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09-18-2013, 05:14 AM | #5 |
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So... sad.
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09-18-2013, 10:03 AM | #6 |
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It is because nature is scary, and mean, and ugly, and gross, and not the lambs living with lions that PETA would have you believe.
As succulently put by this "cute" link. (Even though the link says, rape, it is actually safe for work.) http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/qu...seals-to-death
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09-18-2013, 10:08 AM | #7 |
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Oh shut it. Elephants are known for intense familial and community ties. I'm sure even elephants have crazy mom elephants.
What is your point exactly? That nature is scary and mean and gross and ugly? Yeah, so's your face. Oh, I get it. You hate PETA. So? You win the Irrelvant Award this week. Congrats, now go kick a critter. |
09-18-2013, 10:58 AM | #8 |
I think this line's mostly filler.
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While elephants do have strong family ties, and I wouldn't doubt a story of a grieving older elephant, this elephant had just been born. It's possible that imprinting is that fast in elephants, and that the separation was causing grief, but I do have one other possible explanation for the crying -
He'd just been stepped on by an adult elephant.
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09-18-2013, 12:04 PM | #9 |
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My point is I was raised on a hobby farm with sheep and chickens as our major livestock. This story doesn't surprise me as I see nature and animal-parents turn on young before. It is not a common occurrence but it is not that unusual.
Something that many city-dwellers might take for granted is the idyllic nature of animals and what you find in farming and raising animals, you find some strange or disturbing behavior. Most animal activist groups have this false belief that all animals are perfect loving family groups. But there are a lot of glitches in the system and yes, animals do rape, murder, cannibalize, and have homosexual relationships with each other. In the end my point I am trying to make is, animals are not "better" then humans.
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09-18-2013, 12:59 PM | #10 | |
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Well...that doesn't stop it being a sad picture.
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09-18-2013, 01:02 PM | #11 |
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Where did anyone say animals were better than humans?
You criticize others for making unfounded assumptions, but how many did you just make in your posts? |
09-18-2013, 01:21 PM | #12 |
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Unfounded:
City dwellar. Nope. Rural farmland school. Idyllic nature of animals. Nope. See above. And I watched Wild Kingdom. Animals raping and pillaging and (gasp!) Being ghey together.;Anthropomorphizing much? But but but you just said WE do tyat, because we find a grieving baby elephant sad. Perfect loving family groups. Huh? See above, and I have some education. Sounds like that guy, freshhead or something: thems just some dogs, man. OMG Coign IS Freshhead! |
09-18-2013, 01:28 PM | #13 |
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My "assumption" is that people find this shocking and deeply sad. I am just saying if you grew up around animals all your life, you find it slightly sad but not unusual. I find the picture interesting but not to the level that the forum here seems to see it.
Anyways, I though I would just bring up the point that this is not that out of the ordinary. I didn't mean to sound like I was attacking anyone here. (Unless you are one of those people who throw red paint on someone wearing leather. Those people I do mean to offend.) Now that everyone knows I am cold-heartless animal butcher, I will go back to my normal life of hating animals.
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09-18-2013, 01:30 PM | #14 | |
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Heheh. There ya go with the assumption that people expressing sadness at that picture haven't grown up with animals.
"If you knew as much as I do, you wouldn't think like that". And nobody expressed shock or surprise at the fact that the mother rejected the baby elephant. They just expressed sadness.
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09-18-2013, 03:10 PM | #15 |
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Dice it into 1-inch cubes, toss into a slow cooker with potatoes, carrots, onions...for a week. Prep time: three days.
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