The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Politics

Politics Where we learn not to think less of others who don't share our views

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-11-2020, 04:59 PM   #346
Griff
still says videotape
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,813
So it could improve my pocketed mask, that's something.

I have two filthy homes on my caseload. I've been using disposable masks in those places and tossing them immediately as they smell like those places when I leave...
__________________
If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Griff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2020, 09:16 PM   #347
Urbane Guerrilla
Person who doesn't update the user title
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,674
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigV View Post
cite please.
Well -- is it some conspiracy? -- or is it a culture, and a norm for said culture? Who needs a conspiracy when he has a culture? Are any of those candidates actually stating a reason to vote for them, and their programs? I can't hear them.

Mark Levin has made considerable public comment on the Democrats' prejudiced behavior toward Donald John Trump. It is strictly prejudiced to conduct an impeachment where it's "impeachment first, offense later" -- a miscarriage of injustice. Justice, as a rule, runs the other way, offense first, and winning an election against the Mistress of Corruption is no actionable offense. Credit for frequent competent action is refused -- the Democrats are treating Trump the way they treated niggers, what with the lynchings and other fun times -- Democrat show all the way. They *do* seem to have trouble getting Trump throttled.

Two television networks are establishing a reputation for aiding and abetting the Democrats' anti-libertarian campaign. Antilibertarian campaigning is toxic, antieconomic, and slavemongering.

You know, I didn't vote for Trump the first time. Then he started implementing all these libertarian-style policies. Here comes the second.
__________________
Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 08-20-2020 at 09:25 PM.
Urbane Guerrilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2020, 10:22 PM   #348
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
So you can't cite.
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2020, 06:34 AM   #349
tw
Read? I only know how to write.
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,933
He heard it on Fox News. It must be true.
tw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 02:04 PM   #350
Urbane Guerrilla
Person who doesn't update the user title
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,674
Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
So you can't cite.
Sorry, but Mark Levin's oeuvre is a cite, and it's comprehensive -- as you might know, once you can be arsed to start reading Levin's works. You do need to be prepared to leave the anti-American club treehouse, though. Such preparation is not difficult.

With Levin, Ben Shapiro. Somebody else you manifestly do not know.

I keep discovering all these people with training in law, who then started writing. And law school wasn't their only credential.

"Democrats won't let you work, but they'll let you riot . . ."
__________________
Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.
Urbane Guerrilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 03:18 PM   #351
tw
Read? I only know how to write.
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,933
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla View Post
"Democrats won't let you work, but they'll let you riot . . ."
Republicans destroyed jobs, terminated what was a balanced budget, and created a massive downturn between 2000 and 2008. A recession that was terminated by what Democrats (and some moderate - therefore patriot Republicans) did in 2008 through 2018. By that point, the extremist Republican president had done so much economic harm that another recession was started. Forcing the Fed to lower interest rates multiple times - by even calling an emergency Fed meeting.

So who is creating jobs and who destroys jobs by enriching the rich with tax cuts and even bigger debts? Oh. That reality contradicts what Fox News orders us to believe. So we ignore it and deny it.
tw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2020, 02:44 PM   #352
Urbane Guerrilla
Person who doesn't update the user title
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,674
No mere superstition, that: "With this hallucination I thee wed, dearest Falsehood."

In California, we are now blessed with a color coded four-tier system superseding the California county watch list. Generated by one-party Sacramento and the Democrat Governor.

We are being held back. California's economy still isn't firmly recovering. Veritable convoys of U-Hauls are seen on the highways, heading out of state, to some location not run by Democrats.
__________________
Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 08-31-2020 at 02:50 PM.
Urbane Guerrilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2020, 04:51 PM   #353
BigV
Goon Squad Leader
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 27,063
House GOP leader says he trusts Trump over CDC director on vaccine timing

Quote:
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said he trusts President Trump's comments on a timeline for the release of a coronavirus vaccine over Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Robert Redfield.

"We're going to have a safe and effective vaccine this year, and listen to the preparation of what we've been able to do with Operation Warp Speed, to be able to deliver it. When that time comes, if I just take the words of the CDC and the president, the president's right," McCarthy said during a press briefing on Thursday.

"I think one of those two individuals had more information than the other, and that was the president," he added.

Trump at a Wednesday evening press briefing said Redfield was incorrect when he said a vaccine for COVID-19 would likely not be available until "the second or third quarter of 2021," remarks the CDC director made in testimony to Congress.



Redfield's estimate tracks with the outlines provided by other health experts, but Trump said a vaccine could be widely available by this fall. Democratic nominee Joe Biden on Wednesday said Trump lacked credibility in terms of the timing of a vaccine because Trump appears to want one out speedily to help with his reelection. The Trump campaign has criticized Biden for fearmongering.

McCarthy said that after speaking with other experts including Dr. Moncef Slaoui, the chief scientific adviser to the Trump administration's vaccine development program, and pharmaceutical companies developing COVID-19 vaccines, he believes Trump's timeline is more accurate.

He told reporters that Redfield likely "needs to be updated" on the latest information.
Trump was recently quoted saying "You've really drunk the Kool Aid, haven't you?" in a different context, but it sure looks like there's PLENTY of Kool Aid to go around.

__________________
Be Just and Fear Not.
BigV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2020, 01:58 AM   #354
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
Trump's right it will be ready this year...

it just won't be tested properly, and probably not at all.
But after the first few million people we'll know if it works and if it's safe.

Wait a minute, Dr. Moncef Slaoui heading Trumps brain trust?
That sounds like an immigrant's name, but no, Trump hates them.
Hmm, "Moroccan-born Belgian-American", I wonder if Trump knows?
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2020, 08:45 AM   #355
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
Testing is ongoing and has a fixed schedule based on science and rules that can't be circumvented

don't go antivax to own dear leader, blood will be on your hands
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2020, 09:57 AM   #356
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
Dear Leader has already touted unproven and in fact dangerous injections so Dear Leader is not to be trusted. We'll have a vaccine when the scientist-doctors and the CDC/WHO say we have a vaccine.
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2020, 10:33 AM   #357
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
then don't claim "it just won't be tested properly or not at all"
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2020, 10:57 AM   #358
Clodfobble
UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 20,012
His implication was if it is ready before the end of 2020 (as Trump has claimed it will be) then by definition it won't have been properly tested, according to the rules you claim can't be circumvented (though in actuality they can, it just takes one willing and/or blackmailed pharmaceutical CEO.)

You can believe Trump is talking out of his ass and it won't be released this year, and maybe you're right, but the testing protocols you believe in dictate that a properly-tested vaccine can't be released this year.
Clodfobble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2020, 11:17 AM   #359
BigV
Goon Squad Leader
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 27,063
Clodfobble, you're precisely correct. Thank you for the concise clarification.
__________________
Be Just and Fear Not.
BigV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2020, 11:32 AM   #360
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clodfobble View Post
(though in actuality they can, it just takes one willing and/or blackmailed pharmaceutical CEO.)
really? conspiracy theory before the fact?

Quote:
You can believe Trump is talking out of his ass and it won't be released this year, and maybe you're right, but the testing protocols you believe in dictate that a properly-tested vaccine can't be released this year.
NY Times COVID vaccine tracker

40 vaccines are in human clinical trials. Nine are in Phase 3. (Three of those are Chinese companies, so we might rule them out? But they are being tested in other countries. All three Chinese vaccines are approved for limited human use.)

Three vaccines not from Chinese companies are nearly ready. They won't be widely available by the end of 2020 because manufacturing, but one or two may well be released. Pfizer figures their studies will be complete next month.
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:10 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.