Anger Over Mohammed Cartoon

[Aliantha]

From your link UT:

Many Muslims (and some non-Muslim) observers claim that there are more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the world. Adherents.com has no reason to dispute this. It seems likely, but we would point out that there are different opinions on the matter, and a Muslim may define "practicing" differently than a Christian. In any case, the primary criterion for the rankings on this page is self-identification, which has nothing to do with practice.

The highest figure we've seen for Hinduism (1.4 billion, Clarke, Peter B., editor), The Religions of the World: Understanding the Living Faiths, Marshall Editions Limited: USA (1993); pg. 125.) is actually higher than the highest figure we've seen for Islam. But this is an abberation. World Hinduism adherent figures are usually between 850 million and one billion.

[Undertoad]

So what if those Christians aren't practicing. Neither are the Danish cartoonists I'll wager.

[Aliantha]

Whether they're practicing or not is moot don't you think? The only point I was trying to make is that Christianity is not the religion of the world. It doesn't even have the largest following according to some sources.

[Undertoad]

Freedom of speech is not a Christian notion.

[Aliantha]

No it's not. What's your point?

[Undertoad]

My point is that your original post #87 was wrong in almost every way.

[Aliantha]

So far you've questioned one point which still seems to be up for debate and possibly always will be. What else would you like to argue?

[Guyute]

Ever notice that these tough guys in Arab dress always have hoods covering their faces (and often their entire head)? If they are so tough, why not take off the rag so that the world can see their faces...

[keryx]

Originally Posted by Guyute

Ever notice that these tough guys in Arab dress always have hoods covering their faces (and often their entire head)? If they are so tough, why not take off the rag so that the world can see their faces...

If there's no shame in what they do, surely they'd display their faces with pride! After all, their God fully endorses what they do! Who cares what infidels think?

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Just a fact for some here who seem to think that Christianity or Christian society is in any way going to 'teach Muslims a lesson' or 'force them to grow up', or any of the other suggestions made here in this thread; In case you're not aware, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and already makes Christianity a minority (even Buddists and Hindus outnumber Christians), so while you're sitting there with all your wealth, ask yourself how much good it'll do you if you continue to antagonize the majority.

If I'm not antagonizing the majority, then I'm not doing my job right.

Equality and equal rights are not just about the desires of the majority.

Islam is the "Fastest Growing" religion (although there are a few others that would dispute that) because their objective is to conquer, not to convince.

Am I reading things right here, btw? I'm getting the impression that somehow Muslims burning down foreign embassies is somehow Bush's fault. I just want to make sure I'm picking up the proper (misguided) subtext.

Sometimes the fault actually is in THEM, and not US, yah?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Just a fact

In fact it's not a fact. It's an opinion shared by you and uncited sources.

for some here who seem to think that Christianity or Christian society is in any way going to 'teach Muslims a lesson' or 'force them to grow up', or any of the other suggestions made here in this thread;

Opinions, like your own statements.

In case you're not aware, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and already makes Christianity a minority (even Buddists and Hindus outnumber Christians),

Opinion? Wild ass guess? Source?

so while you're sitting there with all your wealth, ask yourself how much good it'll do you if you continue to antagonize the majority.

Besides buying a military presence that can turn the world into a sheet of glass?
While I'm of the mind that it's not a good idea to go into the lions cage and twist his tail, I'll be damned if I'll alow him to dictate what I do in my cage.
I'm also of the opinion that the people in the news, self described islamic faithful, that riot, loot, murder over insults to their faith (real or imagined) are nothing but common criminals. I've no proof that they are even in fact, muslims, other than their claims quoted by the press, but I don't care one way or the other. The only thing I care about is their public behavior which is unacceptable.

[jaguar]

So Aliantha, got your burqua on yet? Better get yourself down to the local mosque for a good caning, you wouldn't want to antagonise them.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by jaguar

So Aliantha, got your burqua on yet? Better get yourself down to the local mosque for a good caning, you wouldn't want to antagonise them.

That's not very fair, jag. How is she supposed to get to the local mosque when she is not allowed to drive? And don't forget that she has to turn in all her diplomas and go through memory cleansing since no woman is allowed to be smarter than the dumbest man.

Originally Posted by wolf

Am I reading things right here, btw? I'm getting the impression that somehow Muslims burning down foreign embassies is somehow Bush's fault. I just want to make sure I'm picking up the proper (misguided) subtext.

Sometimes the fault actually is in THEM, and not US, yah?

Oh, come on, Wolf! Aren't we being just a little disingenuous here? You don't think all that "collateral" damage in Iraq might not have just mildly upset some folks of Middle East origin and Muslim faith? Take an open wound and lightly sprinkle a touch of salt on it and what do you get? I'm not saying that I don't think the response to the cartoon was as bizarre and extreme as everybody else does. I'm just saying.

[bloggertraveler]

When the good people of Iraq and Iran do not take enough interest in their own government to thwart the efforts of those who would turn their countries into a terrorist state, the removal of the infectious cancer of terrorism, female degradation, oppression, slaughter of their own people, and utter hi-jacking and corruption of a peaceful religion must be forcefully done and will always cause some collateral damage. Whether the forceful cancer surgery is done by internal cou d'etat or external intervention, the removal of the penetrating tentacles of the oppressors is seldom easy or painless.

Perhaps we need to help the terrorists to accomplish their ultimate goal which is to quickly achieve martyrdom so they can have 72 virgins in the afterlife. Apparently their wives and daughters are not part of their eternal aspirations being deemed as less than human in this life and less than that in the next life. These terrorists achieve martyrdom when they sacrifice their lives by blowing themselves up such that innocents around them also die. Obviously these terrorists are the greatest obscenity in all the world because their corruption of Islam makes them alone the greatest threat to true Islam.

We can help them achieve their eternal goals by contributing money and explosives to make the next step easy for them. Then we can help them gather themselves into one place and in one majestic stroke blow themselves up. Thus they will have truly conquered the world's greatest threat to Islam. Then the true protectors of Islam, those common people who really believe and practice its peaceful concepts can worship in peace being finally unshackled from the teachings of corrupt clerics and imams who teach the children to hate, devalue their lives, and murder.