Why is Obama Black? - Page 3

piercehawkeye45 · 10-19-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am heavily involved in the rugby community. I have many friends from SA, all who live and work in the US as permanent immigrants. They are all white and more African American than any blacks I know in the US.

What do you mean by African American? Urban black culture or something else?

Sundae · 10-19-2008, 06:04 PM

I'm guessing he means they are more both American, i.e. assimilated into mainstream culture and yet more African, actually having been born and lived in Africa.

toranokaze · 10-19-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

I agree completely but I find it interesting that the only group that calls themselves "American" are people of European descendant. Natives are "Natives, Native American, or American Indian". Slaves of African decedent are "African American or black" and African immigrants are "Somalis, African, Nigerians, Blacks, etc". East Asian, Indians, Arabs, Mexicans, Latinos, etc are "[insert ethnicity] Americans or [insert ethnicity]".

That is why heavily promoting the term "European American" for all people of European descent. And the term "Mixed American" for those who don't what they are.

piercehawkeye45 · 10-19-2008, 09:02 PM

I disagree with that. We should not be separating ourselves into groups by racial class, that is degression. I believe we should accept that race is nothing more than a social construct and work to get rid of all discrimination in that respect. If we get rid of the idea of race, we will also rid ourselves of racism as well.

I would rather label everyone in the United States as "American" but at this moment I believe that would be just sweeping the dirt under the carpet and not actually cleaning it up.

Cicero · 10-19-2008, 09:05 PM

I have an answer, because he's black. If you saw him on the street don't tell me you would think that he's white.

Flint · 10-19-2008, 10:46 PM

/skips whole thread

BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."

classicman · 10-19-2008, 11:05 PM

Who gives a shit what color he is? Either you agree with his ideas, his politics and/or his vision or you don't. Get the fuck over his color people - Geez what friggin century are we living in.

Cloud · 10-19-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

/skips whole thread

BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."

you would, maybe, not me.

I'd be more likely to say the tall guy with the funny ears.

classicman · 10-19-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

you would, maybe, not me.

I'd be more likely to say the tall guy with the funny ears.

Since you mentioned it - DAMN He's got big ears!

Flint · 10-19-2008, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

you would, maybe, not me.

I'd be more likely to say the tall guy with the funny ears.

I'm responding to the thread topic. Nobody would say "The tall white guy over there."

lookout123 · 10-20-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

/skips whole thread

BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."

I wouldn't. Nope, nuh uh, not me. I'd point and say "that's the motherfucker! No not that one, the one next to him talking about 'change' every damn day."

Crimson Ghost · 10-20-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Since you mentioned it - DAMN He's got big ears!

Since you mentioned it - Any truth to the rumor that he used to be employed as a radar dish on Guam?

classicman · 10-20-2008, 11:43 AM

lol! I heard that too.

bluecuracao · 10-20-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

/skips whole thread

BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."

In Texas, yes, but in Philadelphia...not so much.

Cicero · 10-20-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

/skips whole thread

BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."

Maybe you should read the thread next time. That's what I just said...almost verbatum.

10-19-2008, 06:04 PM	#32
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I'm guessing he means they are more both American, i.e. assimilated into mainstream culture and yet more African, actually having been born and lived in Africa. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-19-2008, 09:02 PM	#34
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	I disagree with that. We should not be separating ourselves into groups by racial class, that is degression. I believe we should accept that race is nothing more than a social construct and work to get rid of all discrimination in that respect. If we get rid of the idea of race, we will also rid ourselves of racism as well. I would rather label everyone in the United States as "American" but at this moment I believe that would be just sweeping the dirt under the carpet and not actually cleaning it up. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

10-19-2008, 09:05 PM	#35
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I have an answer, because he's black. If you saw him on the street don't tell me you would think that he's white. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

10-19-2008, 10:46 PM	#36
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	/skips whole thread BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there." __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-19-2008, 11:05 PM	#37
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Who gives a shit what color he is? Either you agree with his ideas, his politics and/or his vision or you don't. Get the fuck over his color people - Geez what friggin century are we living in. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-20-2008, 11:43 AM	#43
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	lol! I heard that too. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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