Obama has won the nomination - Page 5

Griff · 03-19-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Hillary is Al? Srsly?

truly
That is why the Dems lose the general election to McCrazyperson if she is the nominee.

Undertoad · 03-19-2008, 01:01 PM

We thought Clinton would screw up the economy. We were wrong.

piercehawkeye45 · 03-19-2008, 01:20 PM

Obama was just covering his ass, his target audience was quite obvious.

The speech was nice but I think it lacked major depth. He mentioned many times of the problems we have in our society but nothing of how to solve them or the sacrifices needed to solve them. Yes, a unified America is needed for change but the civil rights movement would never have happened if people weren't attacked by police dogs and soaked with fire hoses on a regular basis.

He said that a disparity exists between white and black schools, but the solution he even hinted at was that whites will start having to fund black schools, which I don't think will work.

aimeecc · 03-19-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

truly
That is why the Dems lose the general election to McCrazyperson if she is the nominee.

The latest polls have McCain down only 1 or two points versus either Obama or Clinton. Statistically a tie, considering the error factor.

I think the Dems are going to lose either way. There's too many unknowns on Obama - which the Republicans will play very well. Clinton. Well, she's Hillary Clinton. So McCain it is.

McCain isn't McCrazyperson. He won't be bad. Honestly, none of them will be bad. Each has strengths and weaknesses.

I just wish it was Nov already so we can get the election over with. I'm tired of it already and we haven't even finished the primaries.

Griff · 03-19-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

He said that a disparity exists between white and black schools, but the solution he even hinted at was that whites will start having to fund black schools, which I don't think will work.

Actually, ideas to do just that at the state level have been floated. There has been a lot of tinkering with property taxes for "clean and green" (PA's version) and property tax relief for farmers and retirees. This shifting burden pisses people off. I could see it sneaking through in the form of state taxes combined with property taxes so rich people can still get better schools and the poor get minimum funding. Of course this moves us further toward ending locally controlled school, but the Kennedite/Busherian ultra-nationalists already support that. (I'm having fun with words here but srysl that style funding is not out of the question.)

Griff · 03-19-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aimeecc

McCain isn't McCrazyperson. He won't be bad. Honestly, none of them will be bad. Each has strengths and weaknesses.

lookout123 · 03-19-2008, 02:19 PM

is he the only candidate to say some stupid shit?

Griff · 03-19-2008, 02:50 PM

Wow. That was stupid. McCain swung right by stupid to land on evil though.

lookout123 · 03-19-2008, 02:55 PM

eh, i thought it was pretty stereotypical midwest humor that fit right in with his surroundings. the guy's a career politician, he slipped into character.

Griff · 03-19-2008, 02:57 PM

we're in worse shape than i thought

lookout123 · 03-19-2008, 02:58 PM

what? you didn't realize they were politicians?

Griff · 03-19-2008, 03:03 PM

i had this idea that midwesterners cared about stuff like the price of corn and wheat and left the bomb fantasies to hollywood

Radar · 03-19-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aimeecc

I think the Dems are going to lose either way.

The Dems will win no matter what. They could have video of Obama doing Clinton with 2 girlscouts and a boyscout on a pile of crack cocaine while taking a crap on the American flag and McCain still would have absolutely no chance. Keep in mind that double the number of Americans have voted for Obama than McCain and that's just half of the Democratic Party.

America is sick to death of Republicans. They are even more fiscally irresponsible and dishonest than Democrats...which I thought couldn't be done.

Nothing the Democrats do will prevent them from winning, and nothing the Republicans do will prevent them from failing.

lookout123 · 03-19-2008, 03:15 PM

6 words: dead girl or a live boy

Radar · 03-19-2008, 03:23 PM

The Dems wouldn't lose if Obama was having a 3-way with both.

03-19-2008, 01:20 PM	#63
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Obama was just covering his ass, his target audience was quite obvious. The speech was nice but I think it lacked major depth. He mentioned many times of the problems we have in our society but nothing of how to solve them or the sacrifices needed to solve them. Yes, a unified America is needed for change but the civil rights movement would never have happened if people weren't attacked by police dogs and soaked with fire hoses on a regular basis. He said that a disparity exists between white and black schools, but the solution he even hinted at was that whites will start having to fund black schools, which I don't think will work. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

03-19-2008, 02:19 PM	#67
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	is he the only candidate to say some stupid shit? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

03-19-2008, 02:50 PM	#68
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Wow. That was stupid. McCain swung right by stupid to land on evil though. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-19-2008, 02:55 PM	#69
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	eh, i thought it was pretty stereotypical midwest humor that fit right in with his surroundings. the guy's a career politician, he slipped into character. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

03-19-2008, 02:57 PM	#70
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	we're in worse shape than i thought __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-19-2008, 01:01 PM	#62
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	We thought Clinton would screw up the economy. We were wrong.

03-19-2008, 02:58 PM	#71
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	what? you didn't realize they were politicians? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

03-19-2008, 03:03 PM	#72
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	i had this idea that midwesterners cared about stuff like the price of corn and wheat and left the bomb fantasies to hollywood __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-19-2008, 03:15 PM	#74
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	6 words: dead girl or a live boy __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

03-19-2008, 03:23 PM	#75
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	The Dems wouldn't lose if Obama was having a 3-way with both. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

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