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Old 03-04-2007, 08:42 PM   #16
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hell was invented so that satan represented the pagan god (a guy with horns) and the christians said this guy was evil and if you followed him you'd be damned for all eternity.
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:44 PM   #17
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I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints. Sinners have much more fun.

Only the good die young.

Name the song and artist?
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:48 PM   #18
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I thought satan was styled after Pan?
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:38 PM   #19
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I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints. Sinners have much more fun.

Only the good die young.

Name the song and artist?
Do I have to? Didn't I pay my debt to society by listening to that song 37 million times?

But it's true, Catholic girls rock!
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:38 PM   #20
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Billy Joel? I heard it yesterday in the car and all my friends were singing it (very badly) so I am scarred.
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:40 PM   #21
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haha...good work fellas!

It is a great song though. I love it.
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:22 AM   #22
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I may have to record my rant about how Jehovah is suffering from a self-image problem of supergalactic proportions, what with needing people to praise Him constantly. I mean, here we are, building all those churches, being in fear of being smote by an irrationally angry deity, or worse, tortured like Job or forced to nearly sacrifice your own son just to prove you love Him. Does this seem like a well-adjusted personality to you?

Think about it...an omnipotent, mentally ill deity.

Scary, ain't it?
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:43 AM   #23
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Why would a god need us to praise him? If he is real, he is better than us and shouldn't need our approval.
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Old 03-05-2007, 01:06 PM   #24
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What can be GAINED from the denouncement?

To whom will it prove a point?

We aren't 100% sure one way or another, so why take the risk in the event it is true?

Corps...God... and Country.
You really want to know?
There are stories of fifteen year olds of getting kicked-out of their home when announcing their disbelief.
Being locked in their rooms and attempts at programing.
Shunning by the entire family.
Hate, rage, disgust, being told they will suffer and be tortured for eternity at the hands of their "loving god", while seeing replies of the same in the threads and YouTube comments.
These people feel, felt alone for years, many have felt alone and have said nothing until the challenge.
This gives them a voice among many, lets them know they are not alone, not the only one going through what they are dealing with.
It gives them a community, a support structure to deal witht he persecution that they deal with.
It is important and a good thing.
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Old 03-05-2007, 02:04 PM   #25
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Plus, if you've committed an "unforgiveable" sin, maybe they won't try to convert you anymore!
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Old 03-05-2007, 02:36 PM   #26
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You really want to know?
There are stories of fifteen year olds of getting kicked-out of their home when announcing their disbelief.
Being locked in their rooms and attempts at programing.
Don't forget being placed in mental hospitals. Selene used to do the same sort of work that Wolf does, namely, intake for a local private psych facility. A significant number of the teenage girls there were there, at least in part, because they had been reading about witchcraft.

Strangely, she never once met a teen who cited rampant Christianity as one of the reasons for their confinement...at least, not on the part of the patient.
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Old 03-05-2007, 04:02 PM   #27
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Plus, if you've committed an "unforgiveable" sin, maybe they won't try to convert you anymore!
Yeah... good luck.

Oh, try to find a sobriety program as an atheist. I have had to do this alone and it has NOT been easy.
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:10 PM   #28
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What can be GAINED from the denouncement?

To whom will it prove a point?

We aren't 100% sure one way or another, so why take the risk in the event it is true?

Corps...God... and Country.

Even if this is the case you're taking the risk that your god isn't the real god. So, why wouldn't you practice all religions in order not to offend any of the possible gods out there?

As Stephen Roberts said:

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:32 PM   #29
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Exaclty, no reason to belive in Yahweh over Zeus other than it is the frat of the moment.
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:53 PM   #30
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Jesus died for somebody's sins...



But not mine.



Name THAT song&artist!
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