Dirty tactics in the presidential race - Page 4

glatt · 10-28-2004, 01:00 PM

$6.3 million will buy a LOT of beer. Those guys know how to party.

Happy Monkey · 10-28-2004, 04:15 PM

Any of you Pennsylvanians in Dunmore or Scranton? Make sure you know where to vote!

Happy Monkey · 10-28-2004, 07:32 PM

This is so over the top as to be suspicious, but no matter which side is doing it, it's certainly dirty politics.

Cyber Wolf · 10-28-2004, 08:07 PM

Ok, that's dirtier than a stable muck rake.

elSicomoro · 10-28-2004, 10:34 PM

Today is the first time that I've seen the Shit Boat Veterans commercials on local television here in Philadelphia. Come on, baby! Flog that dead horse!

alphageek31337 · 10-29-2004, 05:12 AM

I need someone to help me confirm this, but if I heard the news correctly this evening, haven't some people in the Pittsburgh area been telling folks that, in order to prevent long lines, only registered Republicans vote on Nov. 2, and that Democrats should show up to the polls on the 3rd?

Edit: Also, I must assume that the Black Voter's League thing above is Republican BS, because despite the Magical Parade O' Minorites, black folks tend to vote Dem (though apparently Dubya has little problem courting the Mexican-American vote, what with his temporary work visas and such).

404Error · 10-29-2004, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by alphageek31337

I need someone to help me confirm this, but if I heard the news correctly this evening, haven't some people in the Pittsburgh area been telling folks that, in order to prevent long lines, only registered Republicans vote on Nov. 2, and that Democrats should show up to the polls on the 3rd?

Uh, that's a joke email that's been circulating lately. There's also one that says if you support Bush, drive with your headlights on during the day, if you support Kerry drive with your headlights off during the night. (must be more of that Republican BS, huh?)

I think if anyone's so naive as to believe either one of these to be anything other than what they are, a joke, they're too stupid to vote in an election as important as this one.

Happy Monkey · 10-29-2004, 11:09 PM

This American Life on voter suppression. (RealMedia)

richlevy · 10-31-2004, 11:04 AM

I'm taking my son Jeffrey to the polls here in PA tommorrow. Jeffrey first voted in this years Democratic presidential primary. He has made up his own mind who to vote for and which party to register under, and when we went to the county clerks office to register him I was careful to list all of the parties, including none of the above. In theory, as a second-time voter he should have no problems.

Jeffrey is autistic. I'm taking my camera/videocam with me. For the primary this was to proudly record his first vote (my other son went to the polls by himself). For this election I do intend to have a picture of my wife and I and our two sons as they vote in their first presidential election. Unfortunately, I also may need to record any objections that come up. One of Jeffrey's bus drivers is a with the local Republican committee. He saw Jeffrey vote in the primaries. He's a pretty nice guy, but that doesn't mean that there may not be a challenge, even though there is no legal standing for one.

Jeffrey has it listed that he may need assistance. I do not want to be involved in assisting him. By my standards, nobody with any partisan beliefs should be in the booth with him. Unfortunately, in this election finding a non-partisan is tough. I'm going to have to rely on the poll workers to do their duty if necessary. Fortunately, Jeffrey will not let himself be influenced by anyone once he makes up his mind.

Troubleshooter · 10-31-2004, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

I'm taking my son Jeffrey to the polls here in PA tommorrow.

*snip*

Jeffrey is autistic.

*snip*

He's a pretty nice guy, but that doesn't mean that there may not be a challenge, even though there is no legal standing for one.

Please don't take this the wrong way but how autistic is he?

One of the biggest problems with democracy is the number of people that are unqualified to vote yet do so.

On the other hand, if with a bit of effort he is able to actually make a reasoned decision then I applaud you both because he is taking his responsibility more seriously than most.

On that nice guy note, does anyone actually know the full requisites for voting?

xoxoxoBruce · 10-31-2004, 03:01 PM

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One of the biggest problems with democracy is the number of people that are unqualified to vote yet do so.

Oh really? I thought it was the number of people that are qualified to vote yet do not.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-31-2004, 03:05 PM

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and when we went to the county clerks office to register him I was careful to list all of the parties, including none of the above.

I don't understand this, Rich. You mean you listed them for the kid to choose from?

Troubleshooter · 10-31-2004, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Oh really? I thought it was the number of people that are qualified to vote yet do not.

Nah, there are way WAY more ignorant voters than there are qualified non-voters.

Happy Monkey · 10-31-2004, 09:59 PM

It's getting down to the wire in West Virginia.

And more in Ohio (this is not from the Board of Elections).

Huckamuck · 10-31-2004, 11:46 PM

The ignorance belong to those who vote for someone based on their party. "Well I have always voted Democrat, so I shall continue to do so." If people would actually pay attention to the issues, instead of making up their mind before they even begin camaigning...we might actually have a working democracy.

BTW...Vote Badnarik!

10-28-2004, 04:15 PM	#47
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Any of you Pennsylvanians in Dunmore or Scranton? Make sure you know where to vote! __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-28-2004, 07:32 PM	#48
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	This is so over the top as to be suspicious, but no matter which side is doing it, it's certainly dirty politics. Attached Images __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-28-2004, 08:07 PM	#49
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	Ok, that's dirtier than a stable muck rake. __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens

10-29-2004, 05:12 AM	#51
alphageek31337 Enemy Combatant/Evildoer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 263	I need someone to help me confirm this, but if I heard the news correctly this evening, haven't some people in the Pittsburgh area been telling folks that, in order to prevent long lines, only registered Republicans vote on Nov. 2, and that Democrats should show up to the polls on the 3rd? Edit: Also, I must assume that the Black Voter's League thing above is Republican BS, because despite the Magical Parade O' Minorites, black folks tend to vote Dem (though apparently Dubya has little problem courting the Mexican-American vote, what with his temporary work visas and such). __________________ The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. ---Friedrich Nietzsche

10-29-2004, 11:09 PM	#53
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	This American Life on voter suppression. (RealMedia) __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-28-2004, 01:00 PM	#46
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	$6.3 million will buy a LOT of beer. Those guys know how to party.

10-28-2004, 10:34 PM	#50
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Today is the first time that I've seen the Shit Boat Veterans commercials on local television here in Philadelphia. Come on, baby! Flog that dead horse!

10-31-2004, 11:04 AM	#54
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	I'm taking my son Jeffrey to the polls here in PA tommorrow. Jeffrey first voted in this years Democratic presidential primary. He has made up his own mind who to vote for and which party to register under, and when we went to the county clerks office to register him I was careful to list all of the parties, including none of the above. In theory, as a second-time voter he should have no problems. Jeffrey is autistic. I'm taking my camera/videocam with me. For the primary this was to proudly record his first vote (my other son went to the polls by himself). For this election I do intend to have a picture of my wife and I and our two sons as they vote in their first presidential election. Unfortunately, I also may need to record any objections that come up. One of Jeffrey's bus drivers is a with the local Republican committee. He saw Jeffrey vote in the primaries. He's a pretty nice guy, but that doesn't mean that there may not be a challenge, even though there is no legal standing for one. Jeffrey has it listed that he may need assistance. I do not want to be involved in assisting him. By my standards, nobody with any partisan beliefs should be in the booth with him. Unfortunately, in this election finding a non-partisan is tough. I'm going to have to rely on the poll workers to do their duty if necessary. Fortunately, Jeffrey will not let himself be influenced by anyone once he makes up his mind. Attached Images __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

10-31-2004, 09:59 PM	#59
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	It's getting down to the wire in West Virginia. And more in Ohio (this is not from the Board of Elections). Attached Images __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-31-2004, 11:46 PM	#60
Huckamuck Overlord of Artistic Justice Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cowtown, TX Posts: 8	The ignorance belong to those who vote for someone based on their party. "Well I have always voted Democrat, so I shall continue to do so." If people would actually pay attention to the issues, instead of making up their mind before they even begin camaigning...we might actually have a working democracy. BTW...Vote Badnarik! __________________ A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. - Winston Churchill

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