What does Jeff Gannon mean? - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 02-23-2005, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

One has to wonder how someone with such easily refutable credentials was able to get within pistol distance of the president

Obviously by invitation.

Griff · 02-23-2005, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by warch

I keep hoping for some sort of check to help start balancing this amazingly secretive, manipulative, powerful executive branch. Journalist,... Judge,... Representative,...anyone????

Well, we have been building this imperial Presidency a long time. It has a lot of momentum in its favor. Now let's say the Democrats ever win the White House, are they going to hand any power back to Congress or better yet to the people? Remember that the Repugs felt the same way about Clinton... Johnson... Truman... FDR and always increased Presidential power when they had their guys in place. This is too cheerful, I'm gonna grab a book and hit the sack.

richlevy · 02-23-2005, 08:58 PM

What happened is that the White House exploited 9/11 and grabbed whatever power it could in the following months. This will not be the first adminstration in the world to extend 'emergency powers' indefinitely, just the first in the U.S.

wolf · 02-24-2005, 01:52 AM

And people think I'm a paranoid conspiracy theorist ...

Trilby · 02-24-2005, 10:23 AM

According to X-Files lore, FEMA is the power behind the throne.

wolf · 02-24-2005, 10:37 AM

They can do a lot of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with disaster management ...

Troubleshooter · 02-24-2005, 10:54 AM

Let's not forget REX 84.

Pics?

Trilby · 02-24-2005, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

They can do a lot of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with disaster management ...

That's what Mulder said!

iamthewalrus109 · 02-24-2005, 01:22 PM

The major revelation about Rex 84 came in 1986/87 durning the Iran-Contra hearings. While discussing Oliver North's position, it was discovered and made known that in case of nuclear war, Oliver North would have effectively been given control of the US under the FEMA infrastructre for disaster operations, ie all out nuclear or biologic warfare. Obviously interment is nothing new, as seen in the WWII experience. The breadth of the federal government has become too expansive, and has only gotten worse since the Cold War, the last great expansion of its power, now with the "War on terror" essentially WWIV we should anticipate more complex and pernicious programs designed not to save the lives of average Americans, but simply to protect and prolong the soveirgnty of the US Federal government.

-Walrus

richlevy · 02-24-2005, 08:50 PM

"Democracies always reflect a country's culture and customs and I know that," said Bush. "But they have certain things in common: they have rule of law, and protection of minorities, a free press and a viable political opposition. "

I'm sorry, but considering the Gerrymandering in Texas and the wall of silence the adminstration has constructed between itself and the press corps, I find that statement highly amusing.

02-23-2005, 08:58 PM	#18
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	What happened is that the White House exploited 9/11 and grabbed whatever power it could in the following months. This will not be the first adminstration in the world to extend 'emergency powers' indefinitely, just the first in the U.S. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

02-24-2005, 01:52 AM	#19
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	And people think I'm a paranoid conspiracy theorist ... __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-24-2005, 10:23 AM	#20
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	According to X-Files lore, FEMA is the power behind the throne. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

02-24-2005, 10:37 AM	#21
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	They can do a lot of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with disaster management ... __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-24-2005, 10:54 AM	#22
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Let's not forget REX 84. Pics? __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

02-24-2005, 01:22 PM	#24
iamthewalrus109 High Propagandist Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 111	The proceedings of Iran-Contra tell the tale The major revelation about Rex 84 came in 1986/87 durning the Iran-Contra hearings. While discussing Oliver North's position, it was discovered and made known that in case of nuclear war, Oliver North would have effectively been given control of the US under the FEMA infrastructre for disaster operations, ie all out nuclear or biologic warfare. Obviously interment is nothing new, as seen in the WWII experience. The breadth of the federal government has become too expansive, and has only gotten worse since the Cold War, the last great expansion of its power, now with the "War on terror" essentially WWIV we should anticipate more complex and pernicious programs designed not to save the lives of average Americans, but simply to protect and prolong the soveirgnty of the US Federal government. -Walrus

02-24-2005, 08:50 PM	#25
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	"Democracies always reflect a country's culture and customs and I know that," said Bush. "But they have certain things in common: they have rule of law, and protection of minorities, a *free press and a viable political opposition. " I'm sorry, but considering the Gerrymandering in Texas and the wall of silence the adminstration has constructed between itself and the press corps, I find that statement highly amusing. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE!* I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

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