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jaguar · 05-01-2004, 01:37 AM

lookout123 · 05-05-2004, 07:48 PM

although educators are part of the problem (granted, a large part) the biggest factor in the failure of public education remains the parents. i got my first degree in education but saw the BS while still doing my student teaching and said no thanks.

Many of the "good" teachers and administrators have left teaching because it just isn't worth it. not because of low pay, but because of the futility of trying to teach that don't want to learn and whose parents won't force them to toe the line. it is nearly impossible to fail a student anymore, because there is always someone willing to stand up and shout that their kid is being persecuted for XYZ reason. public education has been on the slippery slope of lowering standards since the late 60's because it isn't PC to toss a kid out.

the only way to turn it around is for the parents to hold their own kids accountable. 2 scenarios. A) little billy screws off in class and gets bad marks. mom and dad discipline and hold that boy accountable. B) little Billy screws off, get bad marks, mom and dad assume their kid isn't getting a fair shake and make excuses... (write letters, threaten lawsuits, etc...) in which case do you think little billy will buckle down and do better next time??? with the set of parents who will beat his ass if he doesn't, is my guess.

many people think it is all about the amount of money spent in schools. moeny is important, but not as important as parental concern. the reason that kids in private schools typically outperform public school kids is because the parents are spending$$$$ and are going to make sure their kid isn't pissing it away. broadstroke - families who send their kids to private school are GENERALLY going to maintain a higher level of awareness about how their kid's education is coming along. not because they have more money, but because they have to make sacrifices to get the kid there, which is generally not true in public schools.

now if parents start holding their pubicly educated kids more accountable then things may turn around, but until then no amount of testing will improve things.

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lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	although educators are part of the problem (granted, a large part) the biggest factor in the failure of public education remains the parents. i got my first degree in education but saw the BS while still doing my student teaching and said no thanks. Many of the "good" teachers and administrators have left teaching because it just isn't worth it. not because of low pay, but because of the futility of trying to teach that don't want to learn and whose parents won't force them to toe the line. it is nearly impossible to fail a student anymore, because there is always someone willing to stand up and shout that their kid is being persecuted for XYZ reason. public education has been on the slippery slope of lowering standards since the late 60's because it isn't PC to toss a kid out. the only way to turn it around is for the parents to hold their own kids accountable. 2 scenarios. A) little billy screws off in class and gets bad marks. mom and dad discipline and hold that boy accountable. B) little Billy screws off, get bad marks, mom and dad assume their kid isn't getting a fair shake and make excuses... (write letters, threaten lawsuits, etc...) in which case do you think little billy will buckle down and do better next time??? with the set of parents who will beat his ass if he doesn't, is my guess. many people think it is all about the amount of money spent in schools. moeny is important, but not as important as parental concern. the reason that kids in private schools typically outperform public school kids is because the parents are spending$$$$ and are going to make sure their kid isn't pissing it away. broadstroke - families who send their kids to private school are GENERALLY going to maintain a higher level of awareness about how their kid's education is coming along. not because they have more money, but because they have to make sacrifices to get the kid there, which is generally not true in public schools. now if parents start holding their pubicly educated kids more accountable then things may turn around, but until then no amount of testing will improve things. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

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