6/10/2003: Suicide save

Undertoad · 06-10-2003, 01:23 PM

Members of the Long Beach, Calif., police Mental Evaluation Team grab an unidentified woman as she hangs off the top of an eight-story parking garage at St. Mary Medical Center in Long Beach on May 31. The team rescued the woman, who reportedly had been threatening to kill herself. She was admitted to the hospital for psychological examination.

Nice save.

That Guy · 06-10-2003, 03:14 PM

Looks like she's pushing 250+. I wonder if they used anything besides their hands to hoist her back up.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-10-2003, 04:05 PM

Uh...Why?

Leah · 06-10-2003, 05:23 PM

It's the ones that do this that never actually go ahead with it. Attention seekers they are called. Calling Bluff.

BruteForce · 06-10-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Leah
It's the ones that do this that never actually go ahead with it. Attention seekers they are called. Calling Bluff.

considering she's hanging off the edge, i doubt that.

on a related note, this is probably the most upsetting article i've ever read.

chrisinhouston · 06-10-2003, 07:53 PM

Wonder what your source is. Having held an empty shotgun barrel in my mouth and dry fired umpeen time during my divorce period, trying to get up the nerve to load live rounds I know the feeling of wanting to get off the bus. I came so close and my exwife told everyone I was just faking.

Actually, I guess it was the Leo in me, i.e. I love my face too much to shoot it up

Hope she gets a treatment that helps.

YOF
Chris

Chris MC · 06-10-2003, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by BruteForce

on a related note, this is probably the most upsetting article i've ever read.

That really put me on a downer ... I had no idea that these things went on online

Chris.

Bitmap · 06-10-2003, 09:12 PM

I think she's pregnant.

juju · 06-10-2003, 09:18 PM

So, do you guys not think that people should have a right to kill themselves if they want to? It is their life, after all. Isn't it?

Bitmap · 06-10-2003, 09:23 PM

This is one question i have yet to answer for myself. One hand says: go ahead let them kill them selves, on the other hand it says that life is precious, every sperm is sacred, wait a sec....

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Dagney · 06-10-2003, 09:59 PM

I read the article posted above, and it reminded me of another case that happened a year or so ago, a kid on IRC with webcans who wanted his friends to 'watch' him OD.

Story Here

(If Metafilter works, the link is above)

Dagney

xoxoxoBruce · 06-10-2003, 10:13 PM

Take the poll.

wolf · 06-10-2003, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Leah
It's the ones that do this that never actually go ahead with it. Attention seekers they are called. Calling Bluff.

But for those cops, that woman was going to be a human version of Humpty-Dumpty.

That's NOT a bluff.

I do this stuff for a living.

Even without taking the step of carrying through with an attempt, a lot of people who 'just talk' about suicide are very serious. yeah, there ARE chain jerkers out there. I see them. I talk to them. They know I know they're bluffing for three hots and a cot. But even some of these folks up the ante.

A lot of people who make 'cry for help' or 'cry for attention' attempts end up dead.

Wife of a state policeman in a state that shall remain nameless had made several manipulative suicide attempts. She was very practiced. She set the scene, left her suicide note, and timed her overdose such that he would be able to find and rescue her when he arrived home at 6. He was very punctual.

Just one little hitch ... when he arrived home at 6AM after pulling an unexpected mandated double shift she'd been dead for at least 10 hours. (I know the psychologist for that department. This is a true story)

I found the story about the online suicide group very distressing, and I do hope that criminal charges of assisting the suicide of that girl are able to be pursued.

There are a lot of cliche's about suicide ... and the one that is truest is that it's a permanent solution to temporary problems.

Beletseri · 06-11-2003, 07:08 AM

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I found the story about the online suicide group very distressing, and I do hope that criminal charges of assisting the suicide of that girl are able to be pursued.

Seems to me that a better approach would be to infiltrate the group and either provide convincing arguements against or to report someone to the relevant authorities.

I do think people have the right to committ suicide but I think they should have to convince a panel of people that they are sane enough to make a rational decision first.

I would do it in the case of painful terminal illness or if I had an illness where I was going to lose my mind but stay alive. There are too many ways out of depression or a horrible life situation to make the choice for suicide your first choice instead of your last choice.

russotto · 06-11-2003, 01:39 PM

Telling someone how to commit suicide is still covered by the tatters of the Bill of Rights, fortunately.

06-10-2003, 01:23 PM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	6/10/2003: Suicide save Members of the Long Beach, Calif., police Mental Evaluation Team grab an unidentified woman as she hangs off the top of an eight-story parking garage at St. Mary Medical Center in Long Beach on May 31. The team rescued the woman, who reportedly had been threatening to kill herself. She was admitted to the hospital for psychological examination. Nice save.

06-10-2003, 04:05 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Uh...Why? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-10-2003, 07:53 PM	#6
chrisinhouston Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,857	It's the ones that do this that never actually go ahead with it. Attention seekers th Wonder what your source is. Having held an empty shotgun barrel in my mouth and dry fired umpeen time during my divorce period, trying to get up the nerve to load live rounds I know the feeling of wanting to get off the bus. I came so close and my exwife told everyone I was just faking. Actually, I guess it was the Leo in me, i.e. I love my face too much to shoot it up Hope she gets a treatment that helps. YOF Chris

06-10-2003, 09:59 PM	#11
Dagney The Prodigal Brat Returneth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,107	I read the article posted above, and it reminded me of another case that happened a year or so ago, a kid on IRC with webcans who wanted his friends to 'watch' him OD. Story Here (If Metafilter works, the link is above) Dagney __________________ The Constitution gives every American the right to make a total fool out of himself. But that doesn't mean you need to.

06-10-2003, 10:13 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Take the poll. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-10-2003, 03:14 PM	#2
That Guy He who reads, sometimes writes. Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: at the keyboard Posts: 791	Looks like she's pushing 250+. I wonder if they used anything besides their hands to hoist her back up.

06-10-2003, 05:23 PM	#4
Leah Love my Heffalumps Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia (best place in the world) Posts: 346	It's the ones that do this that never actually go ahead with it. Attention seekers they are called. Calling Bluff.

06-10-2003, 09:12 PM	#8
Bitmap Look who thinks he's clever Dan. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Washington DC Metro Area. Fairfax city Posts: 226	I think she's pregnant.

06-10-2003, 09:18 PM	#9
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	So, do you guys not think that people should have a right to kill themselves if they want to? It is their life, after all. Isn't it?

06-10-2003, 09:23 PM	#10
Bitmap Look who thinks he's clever Dan. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Washington DC Metro Area. Fairfax city Posts: 226	This is one question i have yet to answer for myself. One hand says: go ahead let them kill them selves, on the other hand it says that life is precious, every sperm is sacred, wait a sec.... <i>-------------------------------------------------------------------- thats Monty Python. Ignore me i'm just a cellar goof.</i>

06-11-2003, 01:39 PM	#15
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	Telling someone how to commit suicide is still covered by the tatters of the Bill of Rights, fortunately.

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