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[henry quirk]

Flint,

"much of this is interpretation of information and analysis we've received from outside sources."

In my case: while defintions and whatnot come from dictionaries and whatnot, my experience of the difference between Free Enterprise and Capitalism is first hand.

As I say: I self-employ, and I do so in a gray area sphere (information). I find it, convey it, wash my hands of it. What I do is largely unregulated ('cept by 'legit' private investigators who are always lookin' to call down the fire on someone they think is takin' their business). Mine is truly a 'free' enterprise. I have no formal regulators to oversee me, no safety net, no teat. If I don't work, or if I work but fail, there's no line for me to stand in to get a check. If I'm screwed over by a client, the current iteration of the courts is of little use to me.

Having worked 9 to 5, with all the benefits and all the strictures, serving multiple overseers, ain't no way in Heaven or Hell I'd ever give up the autonomy I have now for the 'security' I had then.

As I reckon things: Free Enterprise, with all it's dangers and neck-breakin', life-wreckin' possibilities, is superior to State Capitalism with it's abattoir-like confinements and 'regulations'. Only thing State Capitalism is better than is State Socialism (and not by much).

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Bruce,

Investopedia (I think) has three small articles (one on Free Enterprise, one on Capitalism, one comparing/contrasting the two). Also: run a general search using '*free enterprise vs capitalism'. You should get hits for links to formal analysis of the differences as well as essays doin' the same.

I'd do the work for you (cuz I'm a 'fuck you, I told ya so' kinda guy), but this old Ipad I'm workin' from ain't none too swift. Besides: you're a big boy. If you really wanna know, you'll climb over the garden wall yourself.









*Free enterprise, for the record, is synonomous with 'free (open, unregulated) market' (something Capitalists discourage [which makes them different from commies how?]).

[xoxoxoBruce]

But you see my point, we're comparing fruit over the phone when I'm holding an apple and you an orange. Gets real muddled if we're not using names the same way.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Whoa, see how easy it is to get carried away and move from regulations to entirely throwing away markets? The thing that raised billions out of abject poverty, and continues to do so in China and India faster than anyone thought possible? Using an example of abject poverty during a time when it still existed, which was over a century ago in this country?

Posted as a warning about a race to the bottom returning to a time with no regulation. We got through it and it did lift everyone. It was however no heaven on earth to be wished for again.

[sexobon]

^This^, on WORLD KINDNESS DAY?

Oh, the humanity! ...

[henry quirk]

...but. in case it does...

Go fuck yourself, Bruce.

[tw]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Go fuck yourself, Bruce.

So again the characteristic of a wacko extremists is evident. Explains why he approves of Nazis, White Supremacists, and KKK - just like Trump.

Profanity makes more sense (justifies all conclusions) when one is an extremist.

Actually he is being kind. Otherwise he would resort to what is most often implemented by extremists - assault weapons.

[henry quirk]

...and fixate only on 'go fuck yourself, Bruce'.

I know why you do this.

Bein' a State Socialist (but bein' unwilling to out yourself) you avoid dealing with the substance I've offered (cuz then you'd have to acknowledge I don't fit into your lil box of 'Nazis, White Supremacists, and KKK'), and you'd have out yourself as the true extremist.

Your methods are old news.

You're old news, not even worth droppin' a profanity on.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

...but. in case it does...

Go fuck yourself, Bruce.

No, it was a joke, and I did apologize if you remember.

As far as fucking myself, damn, I wish I could.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

As far as fucking myself, damn, I wish I could.

Have we humans become so wacko that you want to become a new species?

[henry quirk]

Yeah, but I didn't/don't get it.

'splain it to me.

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"Have we humans become so wacko that you want to become a new species?"

I'm pretty damn sure you and me ain't the same strain.

[Undertoad]

Reminded of this thread when I came upon this quote today.

"Society can and does execute its own mandates: and if it issues wrong mandates instead of right, or any mandates at all in things with it ought not to meddle, it practices a social tyranny more formidable than many kinds of political oppression, since, though not usually upheld by such extreme penalties, it leaves fewer means of escape, penetrating much more deeply into the details of life, and enslaving the soul itself."
-- John Stuart Mill

[Griff]

Contextually, is Mill only talking about law or also social constructs which continue due to a lack of meddling?

[henry quirk]

"There is a limit to the legitimate interference of collective opinion with individual independence: and to find that limit, and maintain it against encroachment, is as indispensable to a good condition of human affairs, as protection against political despotism."

The limit, of course, is the tip of one's nose, the edges of one's life.

'Mind your own business, keep your hands to yourself, or else.'

It's 'or else' that introduces the conundrum: how does one defend one's 'self' against against the weight of all others, how do you stake out the edges of your life and say 'this far and no farther' and make it stick?

Bluntly: how do you preserve autonomy?

The answer is obvious.

[Griff]

Become politically active?

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Griff

Become politically active?

That's rather vague.

A variety of methods are deployed in politics, which include promoting one's own political views among people, negotiation with other political subjects, making laws, and exercising force, including warfare against adversaries.