You. RFN, 2014 - Page 9

glatt · 05-02-2014, 05:26 PM

So he replied asking how much I would be willing to pay, and he explained that it's an unusual situation because the firm already paid him. But that he normally charges $200 for individual portrait sessions. And he pretty much made all the points that Foot did.

I was pretty surprised at how much he wrote. It was a really long email for somebody dickering over some fraction of $50.

I said I valued what he did, but the picture was only worth $20 to me. And I hoped that I wasn't offending him.

He hasn't responded yet. And $20 is even more than I wanted to spend, so I'm cheating myself. I should have offered $10, since that's about what it's worth to me.

Interesting negotiations over nothing.

sexobon · 05-02-2014, 05:34 PM

Maybe he thinks you're coming on to him and are willing to barter. Let's see if he suggests further negotiations over dinner.

monster · 05-02-2014, 10:56 PM

Foot's points are valid BUT he has already been paid for the work. All those points should already have been taken into consideration when he priced the job. he's milking it. It wasn't a portrait session. How many images did he take to get that one? the price should reflect the time and effort it will take for him to find the file (?convert to appropriate format), and send it, plus a bonus in appreciation of his artistic talent because you wouldn't be interested if it were a crappy pic, but HR would still have been satisfied.

Griff · 05-03-2014, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Personally, I wouldn't try to talk him down any more than I'd try to talk any other professional down.

This.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-03-2014, 08:53 AM

There are people who try to dicker over everything. Not that they can't afford it, or don't think the product/service is worth it, they just like the game. I've seen a guy talk a tour guide down from $25 to $15 then give the guide a $20 tip.

Personally I never try to talk a pro down, I either give her the $5 or walk away.

infinite monkey · 05-03-2014, 11:07 AM

*snort*

I never would have made it under a barter system. "How much is that pack of chewing gum? 100 bucks. or my right arm? Well, um...ok."

Gravdigr · 05-03-2014, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

My Dad used to say "A good deal is a state of mind."

Spexxvet · 05-05-2014, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon

Maybe he thinks you're coming on to him and are willing to barter. Let's see if he suggests further negotiations over dinner.

Or trade for a modelling session.

glatt · 05-05-2014, 10:13 AM

I haven't heard back from him. I guess when I told him $50 was too much, and he responded, offering to negotiate, he didn't like my $20 offer.

Oh well. It's a relief, actually. I think $20 was too much for a medium resolution digital image that he was already paid to make.

BigV · 05-05-2014, 11:59 AM

Can you get the already paid for image in file format from HR?

glatt · 05-05-2014, 08:22 PM

I posted it above. That's it. Low res.

lumberjim · 05-06-2014, 01:03 PM

not sure if this will last or even work.... but... i was bored. so... time lapse glatt:

glatt · 05-06-2014, 01:37 PM

Cool! Makes it look like I haven't changed much at all.

Gravdigr · 05-06-2014, 01:42 PM

Your neck grew.

Lola Bunny · 05-06-2014, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

Cool! Makes it look like I haven't changed much at all.

That's because you haven't changed much, basing on those pictures.

05-02-2014, 10:56 PM	#123
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Foot's points are valid BUT he has already been paid for the work. All those points should already have been taken into consideration when he priced the job. he's milking it. It wasn't a portrait session. How many images did he take to get that one? the price should reflect the time and effort it will take for him to find the file (?convert to appropriate format), and send it, plus a bonus in appreciation of his artistic talent because you wouldn't be interested if it were a crappy pic, but HR would still have been satisfied. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

05-03-2014, 08:53 AM	#125
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	There are people who try to dicker over everything. Not that they can't afford it, or don't think the product/service is worth it, they just like the game. I've seen a guy talk a tour guide down from $25 to $15 then give the guide a $20 tip. Personally I never try to talk a pro down, I either give her the $5 or walk away. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-05-2014, 11:59 AM	#130
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Can you get the already paid for image in file format from HR? __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

05-06-2014, 01:03 PM	#132
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	not sure if this will last or even work.... but... i was bored. so... time lapse glatt: __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

05-06-2014, 01:42 PM	#134
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Your neck grew. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

05-02-2014, 05:26 PM	#121
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	So he replied asking how much I would be willing to pay, and he explained that it's an unusual situation because the firm already paid him. But that he normally charges $200 for individual portrait sessions. And he pretty much made all the points that Foot did. I was pretty surprised at how much he wrote. It was a really long email for somebody dickering over some fraction of $50. I said I valued what he did, but the picture was only worth $20 to me. And I hoped that I wasn't offending him. He hasn't responded yet. And $20 is even more than I wanted to spend, so I'm cheating myself. I should have offered $10, since that's about what it's worth to me. Interesting negotiations over nothing.

05-02-2014, 05:34 PM	#122
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Maybe he thinks you're coming on to him and are willing to barter. Let's see if he suggests further negotiations over dinner.

05-03-2014, 11:07 AM	#126
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	snort I never would have made it under a barter system. "How much is that pack of chewing gum? 100 bucks. or my right arm? Well, um...ok."

05-05-2014, 10:13 AM	#129
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I haven't heard back from him. I guess when I told him $50 was too much, and he responded, offering to negotiate, he didn't like my $20 offer. Oh well. It's a relief, actually. I think $20 was too much for a medium resolution digital image that he was already paid to make.

05-05-2014, 08:22 PM	#131
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I posted it above. That's it. Low res.

05-06-2014, 01:37 PM	#133
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Cool! Makes it look like I haven't changed much at all.

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