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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Maybe they are sadists? I've heard horror stories from people with "difficult to find veins" - finally they call in the one nurse who is the vein whisperer and she gets it in one. Makes you wonder why they don't just call her first in when they see the victim has "difficult to find veins."

Both Minifob and I have difficult veins (Minifobette, it seems, was spared.) They once stuck me 7 times trying to find a vein. The difficult qualities, aside from being smaller and deeper than normal, also apparently include "rolling," i.e. being so loose under the skin that they slide away from underneath the tip of the needle, and "blowing out," i.e. being so delicate that the introduction of a needle puncture causes the whole thing to tear apart. This also accounts for our easy bruising tendencies.