Joe Paterno to resign at end of season

Spexxvet · 11-09-2011, 09:03 AM

Unconfirmed, but got an AP text

piercehawkeye45 · 11-09-2011, 09:42 AM

AP pretty much confirms it.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...11-09-09-58-54

dmg1969 · 11-09-2011, 11:23 AM

He could be forced out sooner if the Penn State Board of Trustees decides to do so. Leaving a t the end of this season was his decision. They could decide that his leaving immediately would be better. Time will tell.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-09-2011, 09:47 PM

They won't.

BigV · 11-09-2011, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dmg1969

He could be forced out sooner if the Penn State Board of Trustees decides to do so. Leaving a t the end of this season was his decision. They could decide that his leaving immediately would be better. Time will tell.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

They won't.

They did.

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STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.

The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.

But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.

Speaking at his house to a couple of dozen students, Paterno said, "Right now, I'm not the football coach. And I've got to get used to that. After 61 years, I've got to get used to it. I appreciate it. Let me think it through

xoxoxoBruce · 11-09-2011, 10:56 PM

OK, they've decided to fired everybody to cover their ass, including the president. Cowards.

Lamplighter · 11-10-2011, 02:19 AM

XO, Why not give the Board a small break.

As I understand it, Paterno was obligated to report the offenses of the other coach.
If so, they fired those that did not do their job properly.

If Paterno were kept on til the end of the year, couldn't the Board have been criticized
for caring more about their football season than the improper conduct of their faculty.
.

Spexxvet · 11-10-2011, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

XO, Why not give the Board a small break.

As I understand it, Paterno was obligated to report the offenses of the other coach.
If so, they fired those that did not do their job properly.

If Paterno were kept on til the end of the year, couldn't the Board have been criticized
for caring more about their football season than the improper conduct of their faculty.
.

As I understand it, he met the minimum requirement for reporting. He did what he was supposed to do. Sandusky was no longer a PSU coach in 1999. They're saying that Paterno should have done more. I don't know, yet, whether it was administrators, police, or prosecutors who dropped the ball. Until there is more information, and hopefully the truth comes out, I think Joe should have been allowed to finish the season.

piercehawkeye45 · 11-10-2011, 08:44 AM

Penn State students riot to protest Paterno's firing. This is going to make people respect them even more....

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...-unrest/44792/

Sheldonrs · 11-10-2011, 08:52 AM

If you sexaully abuse a child, gasoline should be pour on your head and you should be set on fire and burned to death. If you know about it and do nothing, you should be made to watch the burning and then go to prison for the rest of your life. If you protest the decision to fire those who did nothing, you should be made to explain to the children that were raped why you think football is more important than the child.

Spexxvet · 11-10-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

If you sexaully abuse a child, gasoline should be pour on your head and you should be set on fire and burned to death. If you know about it and do nothing, you should be made to watch the burning and then go to prison for the rest of your life. If you protest the decision to fire those who did nothing, you should be made to explain to the children that were raped why you think football is more important than the child.

Joe didn't "do nothing".

SirFatty · 11-10-2011, 10:58 AM

He did half of nothing... he had a responsibility to go to the police and he did not.

infinite monkey · 11-10-2011, 11:12 AM

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Paterno notified Curley and Schultz about the 2002 abuse charge and is not a target of the criminal investigation. Curley and Schultz have been charged with failing to report the incident to the authorities.

Marx brothers-sounding names aside, Paterno did so report the incident. He is not being charged. Whether you think he should have taken it elsewhere or not is your opinion. How much he knew or didn't know is still your opinion.

I'm always amazed at the propensity of people to automatically get out the pitchforks, and shoot first and ask questions later, especially when it comes to certain subjects.

Many lives have been ruined by false speculation. While the incidents are indeed too horrible to imagine, we can't keep with the knee-jerk scapegoatism we cling to...in the name of thinking of the children, or in the name of FSM himself. Not until we know the truth.

jimhelm · 11-10-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Joe didn't "do nothing".

I heard two guys speculating that he used knowledge of this incident to hang on to his job long after he should have been let go. 5 years ago there was talk of his retirement being forced upon him. Supposedly the higher ups visited him at home to talk about it, and he talked them out of it.

this is hearsay. i know nothing.

henry quirk · 11-10-2011, 11:52 AM

Fuck Joe Paterno.

He served at the pleasure of the university.

If he feels his discharge was unjust: he can sue.

The meat of the matter is NOT Paterno.

From Wikipedia: "Mike McQueary, then a graduate assistant, told Paterno in 2002 that he had seen Sandusky performing a sex act on a 10-year-old boy in Penn State football's shower facilities..."

McQueary, as I understand it, walked in on Sandusky and the boy and did squat to intervene.

Why isn't someone horsewhipping McQueary?

"Well, he followed procedure and reported what he saw to a superior."

Er, fuck procedure, fuck the law: If someone walks in on an adult using my five-year old nephew in such a way, I expect that someone to STOP the event, right then and there.

If *I walk in on an adult using a child in such a way, someone will be hurt.

Let the police sort out the details AFTER you horsewhip the pervert.

'Poor Joe Paterno', indeed...

*This, by the way, is not a 'moral' issue, but simply 'my' distaste for the predatory use of innocents...distaste in no small way fueled by my own love of my nephew...I don't give a shit what the law (civil or religious) has to say on the matter.

11-09-2011, 09:03 AM	#1
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11-09-2011, 09:42 AM	#2
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11-09-2011, 11:23 AM	#3
dmg1969 I got nothing Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central PA Posts: 486	He could be forced out sooner if the Penn State Board of Trustees decides to do so. Leaving a t the end of this season was his decision. They could decide that his leaving immediately would be better. Time will tell. __________________ Void where prohibited. Your results may vary. Not intended for resale. Do not remove tag. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear.

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xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	They won't. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-09-2011, 10:56 PM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	OK, they've decided to fired everybody to cover their ass, including the president. Cowards. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-10-2011, 02:19 AM	#7
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	XO, Why not give the Board a small break. As I understand it, Paterno was obligated to report the offenses of the other coach. If so, they fired those that did not do their job properly. If Paterno were kept on til the end of the year, couldn't the Board have been criticized for caring more about their football season than the improper conduct of their faculty. .

11-10-2011, 08:44 AM	#9
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Penn State students riot to protest Paterno's firing. This is going to make people respect them even more.... http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...-unrest/44792/ __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

11-10-2011, 08:52 AM	#10
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	If you sexaully abuse a child, gasoline should be pour on your head and you should be set on fire and burned to death. If you know about it and do nothing, you should be made to watch the burning and then go to prison for the rest of your life. If you protest the decision to fire those who did nothing, you should be made to explain to the children that were raped why you think football is more important than the child. __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

11-10-2011, 10:58 AM	#12
SirFatty Jotter of Notes Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Northwest burbs of Chicago Posts: 11	He did half of nothing... he had a responsibility to go to the police and he did not.

11-10-2011, 11:52 AM	#15
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	Fuck Joe Paterno. He served at the pleasure of the university. If he feels his discharge was unjust: he can sue. The meat of the matter is NOT Paterno. From Wikipedia: "Mike McQueary, then a graduate assistant, told Paterno in 2002 that he had seen Sandusky performing a sex act on a 10-year-old boy in Penn State football's shower facilities..." McQueary, as I understand it, walked in on Sandusky and the boy and did squat to intervene. Why isn't someone horsewhipping McQueary? "Well, he followed procedure and reported what he saw to a superior." Er, fuck procedure, fuck the law: If someone walks in on an adult using my five-year old nephew in such a way, I expect that someone to STOP the event, right then and there. If I walk in on an adult using a child in such a way, someone will be hurt. Let the police sort out the details AFTER you horsewhip the pervert. 'Poor Joe Paterno', indeed... This, by the way, is not a 'moral' issue, but simply 'my' distaste for the predatory use of innocents...distaste in no small way fueled by my own love of my nephew...I don't give a shit what the law (civil or religious) has to say on the matter. __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

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