Oct 13, 2009: Floaters

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Scriveyn

What xoxoxoBruce and classicman said ...

... plus: the volume of water increases with temparature (above 4°C), and there is a lot of the stuff in the oceans.

Like fish pee

[Shawnee123]

OK, try this:

Take a fish

Hold it over a glass of water

Squeeze the piss out of the fish

The water in the glass will go up slightly.

This, fellow bipeds, is SCIENCE. Anybody can replicate this experiment. Every time, the results will be the same.

[classicman]

The stuff in the oceans isn't the real issue - that would fall mostly into his original example. the stuff above the water level and the landscape surrounding it would be more of a concern from that standpoint. The temperature regulation and environmental issues are affected much more by the landscape and the fact that it changes from a solid to a liquid upon melting. . . me thinks.


Oh and HOL (haggis out loud) at shaw

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by classicman

The stuff in the oceans isn't the real issue - that would fall mostly into his original example. the stuff above the water level and the landscape surrounding it would be more of a concern from that standpoint. ...

OK, try this:

Take a fish

Hold it over a landscape.

Squeeze the piss out of the fish.

When the pee runs into the ocean, it will go up slightly.

Dip the glass in the ocean.

Taste the liquid in the glass - it will taste like salty water and fish pee.

This, fellow bipeds, is SCIENCE. Anybody can replicate this experiment. Every time, the results will be the same.

[Sheldonrs]

There's a big ol' hole in the ozone layer. Ice is melting in places that have had ice for 10s of thousands of years. Glaciers are shrinking.
Arctic wildlife is vanishing.

Call it global warming, natural selection, bad luck or whatever.

It's all happening; it's all real and it needs to be stopped.

And unless someone can prove that all the pollution we've been pouring into the earth and the air and the water ISN'T the cause and that all the chemicals are really GOOD for us, then shut the fuck up and fix it!

[dar512]

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

There's a big ol' hole in the ozone layer. Ice is melting in places that have had ice for 10s of thousands of years. Glaciers are shrinking.
Arctic wildlife is vanishing.

Call it global warming, natural selection, bad luck or whatever.

It's all happening; it's all real and it needs to be stopped.

And unless someone can prove that all the pollution we've been pouring into the earth and the air and the water ISN'T the cause and that all the chemicals are really GOOD for us, then shut the fuck up and fix it!

Well said.

[classicman]

no no no - Prove all the pollution we've been pouring into the earth and the air and the water IS the cause... :p

This may have been happening on and off for Billions and trillions and gazillions of years. Mankind just may be here to see it this time.

[classicman]

Now, should we stop polluting the environment? Absolutely.

[Spexxvet]

If we're the cause, and we do nothing, we're fucked.
If we're not the cause, and we take action, we've only wasted our effort.
If we're not the cause, and we don't take action, it won't matter no-how, we're still fucked.
If we're the cause and we take action AND the action is effective, we'll have saved ourselves.

So why not take action?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by classicman

...This may have been happening on and off for Billions and trillions and gazillions of years. Mankind just may be here to see it this time.

Or we saw it before, and don't remember.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by classicman

no no no - Prove all the pollution we've been pouring into the earth and the air and the water IS the cause... :p

This may have been happening on and off for Billions and trillions and gazillions of years. Mankind just may be here to see it this time.

Wouldn't scientists know if this is a pattern? They study those kinds of things, geologically speaking. They can tell if a trilobite farted 600 million years ago.

And farther back than approximately 4.7 billion years is irrelevant, as there was no earth before then.

[spudcon]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

If we're the cause, and we do nothing, we're fucked.
If we're not the cause, and we take action, we've only wasted our effort.
If we're not the cause, and we don't take action, it won't matter no-how, we're still fucked.
If we're the cause and we take action AND the action is effective, we'll have saved ourselves.

So why not take action?

We've also caused a whole lot of other things that will make matters worse. Case in point, ethanol in gasoline. It takes more energy to make the ethanol than any savings we may get from using it. Couple that with the drop in gas mileage that occurs by using it, and you have actually caused more pollution than if you had done nothing.
Also, the economic hardships that the goofy solutions would and are causing would be just as catastrophic as global warming.
Oh, and the planet has been cooling for almost a decade now.

[Gravdigr]

OK, try this:

1. Take a little rice...
2. Do whatever it takes to make it into a rolling paper.
3. Take a little weed, grass, herb, marijahootchie, dope, smoke, whatever.
4. Separate the vegetative matter from the seeds and stems.
5. Form the rolling paper into a loose envelope.
6. Put the weed into the rolling paper.
7. Roll the paper containing the weed into a firm, but not too tight, cylinder.
8. Find two small sticks of wood.
9. Rub the sticks together firmly and quickly, to make fire.
10. Touch the fire to the very tip of the cylinder of paper and weed.
11. Put the unlit end of the cylinder in your mouth.
12. Inhale deeply.
13. Hold it.
14. Hold it.
15. Hold it.
16. Exhale slowly.
17. Shut the fuck up.

[spudcon]

That is the solution to global warming!

[TheMercenary]