The Psycology of Fear

JBKlyde · 02-11-2011, 12:18 PM

The Fear and Reverance of the Lord is the beggining of wisdom. So Fear itself is not nesessarily a bad thing. When we fear something we imedietly react by either embracing it or rejecting it. The type of fear that is to be embraced is like a stealth bomber. We know it exist and we know it can do great harm, only there is nothing we can do to stop it's destructive intent. So we embrace it and realize it's a weapon of defence. Like fire if we use it the right way it's a good thing. The type of fear that is to be rejected is like a lying tounge, nothing good can come of it so we fight it tooth and nail until it fleas.
Having a war on terror is like fighting off this lying tounge. So what do you fear? Stick your hand on a hot stove and it will burn you. Tourch a block of Ice with a flame thrower and it will melt. Don't fear the one who has the power to murder you fear the one who has the power to cast you into hell.

wolf · 02-11-2011, 01:07 PM

Loves The Cellar. You never know what you're going to get. I was hoping for a discussion of deBecker's The Gift of Fear.

Trilby · 02-11-2011, 01:13 PM

Yup - is good, the cellar.

glatt · 02-11-2011, 01:27 PM

Better with pictures though.

Shawnee123 · 02-11-2011, 01:28 PM

I'm cold and frightened.

SamIam · 02-11-2011, 01:57 PM

The OP highlights one of my pet peeves - religions that are fear based are responsible for more destruction in society as a whole and to individual psyches than just about anything else.

What kind of god demands that you "love" him or you will burn in hell? What kind of god is pleased by the Christian inquisitions and Islamic jihadists and all the rest?

Every person without fail whom I have met who was raised in some hell fire denomination is messed up to a greater or lesser extent. This includes strict catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses (an especially nasty sect), many Mormons, baptist fundamentalists and more.

A human father who told his kid that unless he was "loved" and obeyed, he was going to throw the child in the fire place would be arrested for child abuse. If the father actually carried out the threat, he'd go to jail for a very long time.

Never mind about us meeting god's standards. How about god meeting OUR standards?

As the Buddha taught:

Hatred does not vanquish hatred.
Only by loving kindness is hatred dissolved.
This law is ancient and eternal.

sexobon · 02-11-2011, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I'm cold and frightened.

Saints be praised ... they're there for you.

Shawnee123 · 02-11-2011, 02:10 PM

Aww, bless his little whiskey bringing heart.

DanaC · 02-11-2011, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam

A human father who told his kid that unless he was "loved" and obeyed, he was going to throw the child in the fire place would be arrested for child abuse. If the father actually carried out the threat, he'd go to jail for a very long time.

Never mind about us meeting god's standards. How about god meeting OUR standards?

Brilliant.

JBKlyde · 02-11-2011, 02:48 PM

the truthful tounge would say.. fear is not the end of this... I kind of see it more like the lion king... the dad dies and the boy runs away.. then the boy comes back and retakes the mountain...

teach a child to love and he will love to obey- Tim Boone

Gravdigr · 02-11-2011, 04:21 PM

A former friend had a St. Bernard. That was the most loyal, loveable, slobberingest fool of a dog. Evah! Josh was his name, the dog not the friend. He weighed an even 280 when he died/was put down, again, the dog not the friend.

monster · 02-11-2011, 10:45 PM

what was the name of the last bible-passage-spewing trollbot? I'd forgotten them until now..... The last one spelled better, though.

DanaC · 02-12-2011, 05:39 AM

I don't think Klyde's a trollbot. I think this is just the stuff that plays on his mind.

Sundae · 02-12-2011, 07:43 AM

I learn something new every day. The Lion King was a Christian recruiting film.
Glad I never saw it now.

Number 2 Pencil · 02-12-2011, 10:28 AM

A god that tells one of his followers -Abraham- to kill his son Isaac as sacrifice, and then tells Abraham 'haha, only kidding' at the last second is not the kind of god i want to follow.

02-11-2011, 12:18 PM	#1
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	The Psycology of Fear The Fear and Reverance of the Lord is the beggining of wisdom. So Fear itself is not nesessarily a bad thing. When we fear something we imedietly react by either embracing it or rejecting it. The type of fear that is to be embraced is like a stealth bomber. We know it exist and we know it can do great harm, only there is nothing we can do to stop it's destructive intent. So we embrace it and realize it's a weapon of defence. Like fire if we use it the right way it's a good thing. The type of fear that is to be rejected is like a lying tounge, nothing good can come of it so we fight it tooth and nail until it fleas. Having a war on terror is like fighting off this lying tounge. So what do you fear? Stick your hand on a hot stove and it will burn you. Tourch a block of Ice with a flame thrower and it will melt. Don't fear the one who has the power to murder you fear the one who has the power to cast you into hell.

02-11-2011, 01:07 PM	#2
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Loves The Cellar. You never know what you're going to get. I was hoping for a discussion of deBecker's The Gift of Fear. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-11-2011, 01:13 PM	#3
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Yup - is good, the cellar. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

02-11-2011, 01:27 PM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Better with pictures though. Attached Images

02-11-2011, 02:48 PM	#10
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	the truthful tounge would say.. fear is not the end of this... I kind of see it more like the lion king... the dad dies and the boy runs away.. then the boy comes back and retakes the mountain... teach a child to love and he will love to obey- Tim Boone Last edited by JBKlyde; 02-11-2011 at 03:15 PM.

02-11-2011, 01:28 PM	#5
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I'm cold and frightened.

02-11-2011, 01:57 PM	#6
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	The OP highlights one of my pet peeves - religions that are fear based are responsible for more destruction in society as a whole and to individual psyches than just about anything else. What kind of god demands that you "love" him or you will burn in hell? What kind of god is pleased by the Christian inquisitions and Islamic jihadists and all the rest? Every person without fail whom I have met who was raised in some hell fire denomination is messed up to a greater or lesser extent. This includes strict catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses (an especially nasty sect), many Mormons, baptist fundamentalists and more. A human father who told his kid that unless he was "loved" and obeyed, he was going to throw the child in the fire place would be arrested for child abuse. If the father actually carried out the threat, he'd go to jail for a very long time. Never mind about us meeting god's standards. How about god meeting OUR standards? As the Buddha taught: Hatred does not vanquish hatred. Only by loving kindness is hatred dissolved. This law is ancient and eternal.

02-11-2011, 02:10 PM	#8
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Aww, bless his little whiskey bringing heart.

02-11-2011, 04:21 PM	#11
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	A former friend had a St. Bernard. That was the most loyal, loveable, slobberingest fool of a dog. Evah! Josh was his name, the dog not the friend. He weighed an even 280 when he died/was put down, again, the dog not the friend. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

02-11-2011, 10:45 PM	#12
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	what was the name of the last bible-passage-spewing trollbot? I'd forgotten them until now..... The last one spelled better, though. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

02-12-2011, 07:43 AM	#14
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I learn something new every day. The Lion King was a Christian recruiting film. Glad I never saw it now.

02-12-2011, 10:28 AM	#15
Number 2 Pencil Not too hard, not too soft Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Next to a yapping dog Posts: 75	A god that tells one of his followers -Abraham- to kill his son Isaac as sacrifice, and then tells Abraham 'haha, only kidding' at the last second is not the kind of god i want to follow. __________________ Is all that we see or seem But a dream within a dream? -Poe

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